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This is how it is done, the hacker ‘Martha Root’ dressed as the pink power ranger and hacked white supremacist dating sites, stole their data, took down their s
by ZebusJesus 9mo ago
This is how it is done, the hacker ‘Martha Root’ dressed as the pink power ranger and hacked white supremacist dating sites, stole their data, took down their sites and then proceeded to DOX members by making a map with members locations and information around the world.
- ThrowawayR2 9mo agoYou do understand that if their side does the same, you won't have any kind of moral high ground to stand on because you have already condoned stooping to their level?
- BigTTYGothGF 9mo agoWhat do you mean "if"? I've had multiple friends driven off the internet by right-wing doxxers.
- Terr_ 9mo ago> won't have any kind of moral high ground You're exaggerating. Yes, it gives up the "doxxing not OK", but there will often remain a large moral difference between "Alice was accurately doxxed as KKK/Nazi" versus "Bob was accurately doxxed as $X." There are very few $X which are both worse, plausible, and "the other side." We also need to ask who is going to care or be convinced. Orwell's The Party does not care about ethical or moral consistency, only power.
- vekntksijdhric 9mo agoright, because being a anti-white supremacists is the same as being a white supremacist....
- mc3301 9mo agosomething something, "If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them," something something
- Imustaskforhelp 9mo agoWow, this comment was so hard to read with the something something which made me think it was condescending From what I can tell your comment about: You are talking about paradox of tolerance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance)
- immibis 9mo agoThat's correct. They are talking about the paradox of tolerance.
- ceejayoz 9mo agoDo you imagine white supremacists don't currently dox people?
- bigyabai 9mo agoI can imagine that white supremacists do a great deal of things I would never condone.
- King-Aaron 9mo ago"Their side" absolutely does this continuously, and is one of the reasons early facebook allowed people to use pseudonyms etc. Only one side of the political spectrum routinely resorts to malicious/vexatious behaviour as their modus operandi.
- strbean 9mo agoHow dare the US government, which executes people, tell me that I don't get to murder at will? Where is their moral high ground? /s
- protocolture 9mo agoWeird moral equivocation. Nazis declare themselves enemies of mankind. They otherise themselves with their beliefs. It should be legal to stone them in the streets as non humans. If "Their Side" did the same to innocent people who hadn't declared they are everyone's enemies its a completely different scenario.
- croes 9mo agoDefine doing the same? Exposing racism? Where is the moral problem? This isn’t exposing people for being white but for being supremacists. If they also expose something of the same kund of wrong I see no problem, everything I wouldn’t call doing the same. That’s like comparing police arresting people with criminals kidnapping people, both do kind of the same: imprison people.
- subdude 9mo agoI think the side that isn’t full of white supremacists would have the moral high ground by default.
- tolleydbg 9mo agoI'm not sure how much that would mean swinging from the rafters of [insert intolerant country]. The white supremacists will maybe lose their jobs or reputation, but the consequences could be much more dire in retaliation.
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- clydethefrog 9mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46515191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46515191
- immibis 9mo agoWhen Batman corners the Joker it's good. When the Joker corners Batman it's bad.
- thefz 9mo agoWhile no one likes racists: A crime against someone you disagree with is still a crime. A crime against someone you despise is still a crime. A crime against someone who commits a crime is still a crime. So good intent, very, very bad execution, IMO.
- immibis 9mo agoHere we see an example of the law-and-order personality type, where the most important thing is to follow the law.
- ZebusJesus 9mo agoYeah and DnD has lawful evil as an alignment for a reason!
- thefz 9mo agoThat is kind of the point of a law, to be impartial. Without it we might as well go back to the stone age.
- justacrow 9mo ago"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
- immibis 9mo agoSometimes laws are bad - but people in Kohlberg stage 4 don't think so. There are many obvious historical counterexamples to laws being neutral, or good.
- thefz 9mo agoI am simply not for vigilante justice
- tcfhgj 9mo agoA act against someone random may be a crime. The same against someone committing a crime, may not be a crime.