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Switched from pixels to iphone in the last year or two and the keyboard is the biggest pain point by far. I tend to use swipe, so this particular issue isn't so

Switched from pixels to iphone in the last year or two and the keyboard is the biggest pain point by far. I tend to use swipe, so this particular issue isn't something I've come across. What I do run into is weird censorship issues where I'm trying to type "kill myself" or something similar and the phone will do anything to not provide that as an option. Then, when I try to manually change it, editing is a nightmare. Inevitably trying to change the ending of a word results in the entire word being deleted. It inserts spaces where I don't want them. Is this some sort of psyop to get me to use siri to send texts?

rconti 9mo ago
I've never noticed the "censorship issue", but once it gets a word wrong once, it's game over. Editing is awful. If I'm trying to replace the word entirely, I inevitably do the "wrong thing" and fall victim to the editing again, or tap something wrong, or.. I don't know, but I either have an undiagnosed brain injury, or the "correct" thing to do to get the phone to just take the damn word you typed changes every day.
- baseballdork 9mo ago
  > I've never noticed the "censorship issue" Really? If you swipe "kill" and then try "yourself" or "myself" does it ever get it right or provide it as one of the options? Doing it right now myself and I can't get it to do either. I have manually entered those words and hit the "myself" in the suggestion box to try and convince it that that's an acceptable correction to no avail. > I inevitably do the "wrong thing" and fall victim to the editing again, or tap something wrong, or.. I don't know Every. Time. I like to think that I'm not an idiot and can generally pattern recognize, but it just feels so inconsistent that I'm always doing the wrong thing.
  - markisus 9mo ago
    I’ve confirmed this on my iphone as well. Using swipe, no space bar after kill: Kill maps Jill myself Jill myself Using swipe, manually pressing space bar after kill: Kill mussels Kill mussels Kill mussels
    - mock-possum 9mo ago
      Yeah same - Kill males kill males kill muddled kill mussels (hilarious) Treat myself tear myself try myself tell myself It won’t do it.
      - nothercastle 9mo ago
        Kill mussels confirmed
  - lynndotpy 9mo ago
    Further, iPhones are so bad if you exist anywhere outside the mainstream and language orthodoxy. Their voice recognition stubbornly refuses to acknowledge Linux, instead transcribing Linux. Typing "tboy" or "transfem", common terms in the trans community, gets changed to "toby" or "transfer". I can understand "toby", but the latter is especially bad, as the "r" and "m" keys are nowhere near each other. I'll type these words several times a day, every day, and it'll never get recorded. But one typo of the form "unbeleivalbe" gets permanently etched into the autocorrection. Any intentionally unorthodox english gets invisibly censored and editorialized. You can say "here come dat boi" nowadays (which is good if you're a fan of 2016 memes) but not "wrasslin". Phrases like "what you doin today" has its tone and informality stripped when it's changed to "what are you doing today".
    - m-s-y 9mo ago
      …and when I type standard, but clique-centric, abbreviations and slang among my own groups, the iPhone messes those up, too. Options also exist to pre-populate the predictive wordlists with our own terms, and to turn off predictive text altogether.
      - lynndotpy 9mo ago
        But you can not disable predictive button resizing. Predictive text replacements are very bad, but they mitigate the worse issue of the fact that the keyboard is incessantly shifting with every single keypress.
    - leptons 9mo ago
      I would at some point throw my phone out the window if it worked like this. Instead I choose to have zero help correcting anything I type on my phone. I proofread, and fix any errors before I hit "send". I'm also on a folding android phone with a large screen and a 3rd-party keyboard app with adjustable size keys, so it's very easy to type.
- pureagave 9mo ago
  Duck me, I notice it all the time!
jjice 9mo ago
Similar switching story. I'm very happy with an iPhone overall, but god damn they keyboard took some adjusting. The default keyboard on Pixels (GBoard?) is excellent. The autocorrect is also unimaginably better on the Pixel. It's embarrassing how bad the iPhone's autocorrect is. Not just missing obvious cases, but actively sabotaging correct cases.
- glitchcrab 9mo ago
  You can install gboard on iOS - I haven't used the default keyboard in years
  - jjice 9mo ago
    Yeah I tried it and it doesn't stand up to it on Android in my experience. I figured I'd rather not give Google any data if the experience isn't going to be the same.
  - lynndotpy 9mo ago
    Unfortunately, it's simply not as good. I miss long-press punctuation so much.
    - SJMG 9mo ago
      This 1000x over! On Android you have this and you can tune how long a long-press is. It's amazing and should be an advanced feature on iOS. I wish Apple would get over itself and expose settings for all-the-things, like how you can write default finder settings on macOS using the terminal.
      - lynndotpy 9mo ago
        Yes! I miss it very much. When I was on Android, I used to have it set to 100ms. I used to very quickly send well-punctuated text. On iPhones, it seems like the digitizer has 100ms of hysteresis built in. now i just Lettuce my iPhone sden whatever it wants with no punctuation its not real good Unfortunately, MacOS doesn't have settings (which I am told it had) for animation scales, like Androids have. The interface is sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.
throwaway29473 9mo ago
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jaffa2 9mo ago
theres a setting to turn off whole word delete. So if it does the wrong word when you press delete it will only delete the letter by letter not the whole word. It helps but iphone keyboard is still horrendous.
butlike 9mo ago
Similar story here as well. Why is editing only a nightmare when it's something salacious or off-beat?
jmye 9mo ago
> Then, when I try to manually change it, editing is a nightmare. It feels like the editing and cursor process has gotten exponentially worse over the last few iOS versions. I do not understand what anyone is doing on the Apple side with this, but every change they make, makes it significantly worse.
nothercastle 9mo ago
My phone loves to tell people they V are fat instead of ask them about their day. Also loves adding random v s everywhere
tasuki 9mo ago
Does Pixel somehow have a good keyboard? I use GBoard and find it atrocious: for English it's ok, but it doesn't know basic declensions in Czech nor Polish and autocorrects them to something nonsensical. This happens every time I try to type something, so I avoid writing on the phone. It's the age of LLMs! Language has been solved! LLMs are great at both Czech and Polish. This problem is orders of magnitude easier. Why doesn't my keyboard even know these words exist?? Is there an Android keyboard that actually... knows basic forms of basic words?
- baseballdork 9mo ago
  Please, for the love of god, do not pull LLMs into the mix. I just want the keyboard to display what I'm typing.
  - tasuki 9mo ago
    Yea, it'd also be cool if they, like, just included a basic dictionary?
    - socalgal2 9mo ago
      what do you mean by this specifically? iOS (and I'm guessing Android) both have dictionaries. I can select a word I've entered and look it up in nearly any text area.
- parliament32 9mo ago
  Do you have an example? I type in Polish in GBoard regularly and haven't noticed too many anomalies (although I do have the right language pack installed, and the keyboard is set to it, and I "add to dictionary" occasionally).
- thaumasiotes 9mo ago
  > Does Pixel somehow have a good keyboard? I use GBoard and find it atrocious I use Google Pinyin Input. Since it was discontinued in favor of (the much worse) GBoard, I have to keep a backup of the apk and sideload it onto new phones. Google does not appear to think of input methods as something that should be convenient for the user to use. Not sure why.
zemo 9mo ago
I switched from Android to iOS like five or six years ago and still think about this almost every day, how much I miss the Android keyboard because the iOS keyboard is so, so, so terrible. Years later I still find it a frustrating, type-inducing mess.
- whatsupdog 9mo ago
  You can always switch back.
bitwize 9mo ago
I recently learned of the early 20th century cult called the Royal Fraternity of Master Metaphysicians. Their best known stunt was attempting to raise a baby to become immortal by never exposing her to the concepts of death or disease—our ability to contemplate death being the thing that dooms us to die, in their worldview. Big Tech's attempts to shape us by conforming our capability to express ourselves to "algospeak" seems similarly misguided... though not out of character for Big Tech. (AI can be seen as a form of hermetic magick: an attempt to bring about the Kingdom of God on earth by first constructing a machine-god.)
loloquwowndueo 9mo ago
Haha sometimes I want to type f*ck and it gets auto corrected to duck. But once I was trying to type “pura” (pure in Spanish, I do have Spanish enabled for auto correct) and it auto corrected it to “puta” (look it up). Shrug.
- sammy2255 9mo ago
  I'm in the same boat. This is bewildering to me, because I recall Apple making a joke about (it being fixed) in this in the 2023 developer conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD0u0aNyzz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD0u0aNyzz8
- rootusrootus 9mo ago
  The workaround is to add fuck as a shortcut for fuck. They intended the translation for doing things like translating omw to "On my way" but it works as a hack to let you use profanity without autocorrect killing it.
  - loloquwowndueo 9mo ago
    Fun you should mention this - I do have a few shortcuts but I find I don’t use them anymore because it tends to not recognize/expand them. It’s faster to just type the whole thing than to type the shortcut, realize it didn’t expand, curse at the thing, backspace over it, and have to retype it all anyway.
Aachen 9mo ago
You're on Android. If the keyboard is censoring you and you don't want that, install a different keyboard from any store/repository you like I've also got a Pixel from work and the keyboard doesn't even support swiping. It's a nightmare. I don't really want to install another one due to paranoia related to the work I do, but on my personal android phone, replacing the OS keyboard with Swiftkey (for which I have a data folder with over a decade of training in it) and denying it internet access is the first thing I do after rooting. I'm amazed that so few people seem to even realise that software is replaceable (also the launcher, which is an even-more-commonly-heard complaint after changing/upgrading phones) Edit: wait I misread which way around you switched. Nvm and good luck
renlo 9mo ago
The key is to work around the text input. If you want to say "kill myself", you input "kill my" then complete the "self" portion by pressing delete (remove space), then s-e-l-f. I feel like most of my typing time is spent making these corrections, as it's very quick to swipe but corrections are almost always necessary and they are an order of magnitude slower. Yesterday for example I tried to swipe "succession" but it really wanted to output "secession", so I change my strategy to "success" (it really liked this word), then delete (remove space), i-o-n. I think every time I swipe I need to do at least one correction like this, where I type one similarly spelled word with as minimum an edit distance as I can think of in the moment, then do a manual correction.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 9mo ago
  Except sometimes the autocorrection will “helpfully” replace the prior word to jive with its model of the universe. Incredibly frustrating.
- engineer_22 9mo ago
  Horrifying.
- haarolean 9mo ago
  it's kinda bleak realizing I've been running the same cursed workflow for way too long. brb gonna disable that autocomplete
cg5280 9mo ago
I didn’t pick up on the censorship issue. I just spent a few minutes trying to swipe type “kill myself” and found myself completely unable. I wonder if this is intentional. If so it feels like an embarrassing waste of time.
DamnInteresting 9mo ago
The iPhone keyboard is a living he'll.
prennert 9mo ago
Same for me. My Pixel magically fixed scrambled words (and was very fast doing it). iOS is terrible, even without described bug. I am now much faster typing with the speech-to-text feature. Maybe that is what they are pushing. Maybe Apple wants to remove the keyboard and it is slowly increasing the friction so people use it less and less? Similarly how Chrome degrades browser performance until it gets restarted to force an update.
- wongogue 9mo ago
  Do you have any proof about Chrome? It gets slower nonetheless.
obvi8 9mo ago
In spite of the manufacturing drama it introduced, 3D Touch was an insanely great feature for editing alone. Push a little harder on the keyboard and have a cursor to easily place where you need it. I was real grumpy when they took it away. Editing had only become even worse since. I’d love to know what they’re trying to achieve.
- majjam 9mo ago
  Mine still does that, I just press and hold on the spacebar and can move the cursor around, are you sure its no longer available on your phone?
  - n8cpdx 9mo ago
    Doesn’t work If the keyboard doesn’t have a spacebar - happens with numeric input. IIRC the old 3D Touch version worked on any key.
  - snailmailman 9mo ago
    This was changed, and it is pretty easy to think the feature got removed. When it was pressure-sensitive, you could push harder anywhere on the keyboard. But now that it’s tap-and-hold, it only works on the space bar. Most other pressure-sensitive actions just got replaced with tap-and-hold with no changes. But doing that on any other key brings up letter-specific accents, so they moved it down to spacebar. It also used to be faster. Now you have to wait, but before it was pressure sensitive. You could trigger it instantly with more pressure. Edits were so fast and convenient, but now it’s a slight pause each time
    - 9dev 9mo ago
      You can still tap and hold in the text itself to bring up the magnifying glass gizmo, but yeah the experience is awful
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  I'm not just grumpy, I'm baffled. Suddenly, when there is an URL or number input, when the hold-on-spacebar UX doesn't work because there is no spacebar, how could you even move the cursor left or right? Tapping in-between tiny letters is borderline impossible, and it isn't always in the right place to do the hold-and-slowly-move thing either, because the magnifying glass doesn't show up, so you can't see where you end up... It seems to me like for the last 5-6 years, the people who do decisions at Apple doesn't actually use the products themselves, or actually understand functional UX. Jobs would be ashamed.
organsnyder 9mo ago
I don't think it's "censorship" so much as it's defaulting to less-problematic phrases to avoid the opposite happening (you meaning to say "fill myself" or something). That could be jarring and lead to embarrassing situations. Maybe 99 times out of 100 someone means to type "fuck" instead of "duck", but it's a completely legitimate UX decision to optimize preventing that 1% case, even if it's annoying the other 99% of the time.
- IshKebab 9mo ago
  > it's a completely legitimate UX decision to optimize preventing that 1% case, even if it's annoying the other 99% of the time. Maybe, but only if there's a way to opt out of being annoyed 99% of the time. An "I'm a grown-up" button.
- mrguyorama 9mo ago
  IIRC, there was once a setting somewhere you could toggle to allow autocorrect to do "naughty" words. I think this used to be true on Android as well.
beeflet 9mo ago
just turn autocorrect off. You can learn to type pretty quickly without it, and you aren't subject to mind control.
m463 9mo ago
it's not just you. the iphone keyboard has gone to shot. and auto-correct has lost me data. I've typed in something important to remember and later when I go look at it ("call spaghetti before 5pm!"), I can't figure what I typed in. In the end, I learned to disable auto-capitalization, auto-correction and smart punctuation. and editing is a nightmare. Getting the cursor in the middle of a word is just about impossible, like highlighting just the characters you want to cut or copy.
neutronicus 9mo ago
It refuses to type "white people"! It's also infuriatingly difficult to type "and" (I get "ABs" all the time)

rconti 9mo ago

I've never noticed the "censorship issue", but once it gets a word wrong once, it's game over. Editing is awful. If I'm trying to replace the word entirely, I inevitably do the "wrong thing" and fall victim to the editing again, or tap something wrong, or.. I don't know, but I either have an undiagnosed brain injury, or the "correct" thing to do to get the phone to just take the damn word you typed changes every day.

baseballdork 9mo ago
> I've never noticed the "censorship issue" Really? If you swipe "kill" and then try "yourself" or "myself" does it ever get it right or provide it as one of the options? Doing it right now myself and I can't get it to do either. I have manually entered those words and hit the "myself" in the suggestion box to try and convince it that that's an acceptable correction to no avail. > I inevitably do the "wrong thing" and fall victim to the editing again, or tap something wrong, or.. I don't know Every. Time. I like to think that I'm not an idiot and can generally pattern recognize, but it just feels so inconsistent that I'm always doing the wrong thing.
- markisus 9mo ago
  I’ve confirmed this on my iphone as well. Using swipe, no space bar after kill: Kill maps Jill myself Jill myself Using swipe, manually pressing space bar after kill: Kill mussels Kill mussels Kill mussels
  - mock-possum 9mo ago
    Yeah same - Kill males kill males kill muddled kill mussels (hilarious) Treat myself tear myself try myself tell myself It won’t do it.
    - nothercastle 9mo ago
      Kill mussels confirmed
- lynndotpy 9mo ago
  Further, iPhones are so bad if you exist anywhere outside the mainstream and language orthodoxy. Their voice recognition stubbornly refuses to acknowledge Linux, instead transcribing Linux. Typing "tboy" or "transfem", common terms in the trans community, gets changed to "toby" or "transfer". I can understand "toby", but the latter is especially bad, as the "r" and "m" keys are nowhere near each other. I'll type these words several times a day, every day, and it'll never get recorded. But one typo of the form "unbeleivalbe" gets permanently etched into the autocorrection. Any intentionally unorthodox english gets invisibly censored and editorialized. You can say "here come dat boi" nowadays (which is good if you're a fan of 2016 memes) but not "wrasslin". Phrases like "what you doin today" has its tone and informality stripped when it's changed to "what are you doing today".
  - m-s-y 9mo ago
    …and when I type standard, but clique-centric, abbreviations and slang among my own groups, the iPhone messes those up, too. Options also exist to pre-populate the predictive wordlists with our own terms, and to turn off predictive text altogether.
    - lynndotpy 9mo ago
      But you can not disable predictive button resizing. Predictive text replacements are very bad, but they mitigate the worse issue of the fact that the keyboard is incessantly shifting with every single keypress.
  - leptons 9mo ago
    I would at some point throw my phone out the window if it worked like this. Instead I choose to have zero help correcting anything I type on my phone. I proofread, and fix any errors before I hit "send". I'm also on a folding android phone with a large screen and a 3rd-party keyboard app with adjustable size keys, so it's very easy to type.
pureagave 9mo ago
Duck me, I notice it all the time!

jjice 9mo ago

Similar switching story. I'm very happy with an iPhone overall, but god damn they keyboard took some adjusting. The default keyboard on Pixels (GBoard?) is excellent. The autocorrect is also unimaginably better on the Pixel. It's embarrassing how bad the iPhone's autocorrect is. Not just missing obvious cases, but actively sabotaging correct cases.

glitchcrab 9mo ago
You can install gboard on iOS - I haven't used the default keyboard in years
- jjice 9mo ago
  Yeah I tried it and it doesn't stand up to it on Android in my experience. I figured I'd rather not give Google any data if the experience isn't going to be the same.
- lynndotpy 9mo ago
  Unfortunately, it's simply not as good. I miss long-press punctuation so much.
  - SJMG 9mo ago
    This 1000x over! On Android you have this and you can tune how long a long-press is. It's amazing and should be an advanced feature on iOS. I wish Apple would get over itself and expose settings for all-the-things, like how you can write default finder settings on macOS using the terminal.
    - lynndotpy 9mo ago
      Yes! I miss it very much. When I was on Android, I used to have it set to 100ms. I used to very quickly send well-punctuated text. On iPhones, it seems like the digitizer has 100ms of hysteresis built in. now i just Lettuce my iPhone sden whatever it wants with no punctuation its not real good Unfortunately, MacOS doesn't have settings (which I am told it had) for animation scales, like Androids have. The interface is sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

throwaway29473 9mo ago

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jaffa2 9mo ago

theres a setting to turn off whole word delete. So if it does the wrong word when you press delete it will only delete the letter by letter not the whole word. It helps but iphone keyboard is still horrendous.

butlike 9mo ago

Similar story here as well. Why is editing only a nightmare when it's something salacious or off-beat?

jmye 9mo ago

> Then, when I try to manually change it, editing is a nightmare. It feels like the editing and cursor process has gotten exponentially worse over the last few iOS versions. I do not understand what anyone is doing on the Apple side with this, but every change they make, makes it significantly worse.

nothercastle 9mo ago

My phone loves to tell people they V are fat instead of ask them about their day. Also loves adding random v s everywhere

tasuki 9mo ago

Does Pixel somehow have a good keyboard? I use GBoard and find it atrocious: for English it's ok, but it doesn't know basic declensions in Czech nor Polish and autocorrects them to something nonsensical. This happens every time I try to type something, so I avoid writing on the phone. It's the age of LLMs! Language has been solved! LLMs are great at both Czech and Polish. This problem is orders of magnitude easier. Why doesn't my keyboard even know these words exist?? Is there an Android keyboard that actually... knows basic forms of basic words?

baseballdork 9mo ago
Please, for the love of god, do not pull LLMs into the mix. I just want the keyboard to display what I'm typing.
- tasuki 9mo ago
  Yea, it'd also be cool if they, like, just included a basic dictionary?
  - socalgal2 9mo ago
    what do you mean by this specifically? iOS (and I'm guessing Android) both have dictionaries. I can select a word I've entered and look it up in nearly any text area.
parliament32 9mo ago
Do you have an example? I type in Polish in GBoard regularly and haven't noticed too many anomalies (although I do have the right language pack installed, and the keyboard is set to it, and I "add to dictionary" occasionally).
thaumasiotes 9mo ago
> Does Pixel somehow have a good keyboard? I use GBoard and find it atrocious I use Google Pinyin Input. Since it was discontinued in favor of (the much worse) GBoard, I have to keep a backup of the apk and sideload it onto new phones. Google does not appear to think of input methods as something that should be convenient for the user to use. Not sure why.

zemo 9mo ago

I switched from Android to iOS like five or six years ago and still think about this almost every day, how much I miss the Android keyboard because the iOS keyboard is so, so, so terrible. Years later I still find it a frustrating, type-inducing mess.

whatsupdog 9mo ago
You can always switch back.

bitwize 9mo ago

I recently learned of the early 20th century cult called the Royal Fraternity of Master Metaphysicians. Their best known stunt was attempting to raise a baby to become immortal by never exposing her to the concepts of death or disease—our ability to contemplate death being the thing that dooms us to die, in their worldview. Big Tech's attempts to shape us by conforming our capability to express ourselves to "algospeak" seems similarly misguided... though not out of character for Big Tech. (AI can be seen as a form of hermetic magick: an attempt to bring about the Kingdom of God on earth by first constructing a machine-god.)

loloquwowndueo 9mo ago

Haha sometimes I want to type f*ck and it gets auto corrected to duck. But once I was trying to type “pura” (pure in Spanish, I do have Spanish enabled for auto correct) and it auto corrected it to “puta” (look it up). Shrug.

sammy2255 9mo ago
I'm in the same boat. This is bewildering to me, because I recall Apple making a joke about (it being fixed) in this in the 2023 developer conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD0u0aNyzz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD0u0aNyzz8
rootusrootus 9mo ago
The workaround is to add fuck as a shortcut for fuck. They intended the translation for doing things like translating omw to "On my way" but it works as a hack to let you use profanity without autocorrect killing it.
- loloquwowndueo 9mo ago
  Fun you should mention this - I do have a few shortcuts but I find I don’t use them anymore because it tends to not recognize/expand them. It’s faster to just type the whole thing than to type the shortcut, realize it didn’t expand, curse at the thing, backspace over it, and have to retype it all anyway.

Aachen 9mo ago

You're on Android. If the keyboard is censoring you and you don't want that, install a different keyboard from any store/repository you like I've also got a Pixel from work and the keyboard doesn't even support swiping. It's a nightmare. I don't really want to install another one due to paranoia related to the work I do, but on my personal android phone, replacing the OS keyboard with Swiftkey (for which I have a data folder with over a decade of training in it) and denying it internet access is the first thing I do after rooting. I'm amazed that so few people seem to even realise that software is replaceable (also the launcher, which is an even-more-commonly-heard complaint after changing/upgrading phones) Edit: wait I misread which way around you switched. Nvm and good luck

renlo 9mo ago

The key is to work around the text input. If you want to say "kill myself", you input "kill my" then complete the "self" portion by pressing delete (remove space), then s-e-l-f. I feel like most of my typing time is spent making these corrections, as it's very quick to swipe but corrections are almost always necessary and they are an order of magnitude slower. Yesterday for example I tried to swipe "succession" but it really wanted to output "secession", so I change my strategy to "success" (it really liked this word), then delete (remove space), i-o-n. I think every time I swipe I need to do at least one correction like this, where I type one similarly spelled word with as minimum an edit distance as I can think of in the moment, then do a manual correction.

0cf8612b2e1e 9mo ago
Except sometimes the autocorrection will “helpfully” replace the prior word to jive with its model of the universe. Incredibly frustrating.
engineer_22 9mo ago
Horrifying.
haarolean 9mo ago
it's kinda bleak realizing I've been running the same cursed workflow for way too long. brb gonna disable that autocomplete

cg5280 9mo ago

I didn’t pick up on the censorship issue. I just spent a few minutes trying to swipe type “kill myself” and found myself completely unable. I wonder if this is intentional. If so it feels like an embarrassing waste of time.

DamnInteresting 9mo ago

The iPhone keyboard is a living he'll.

prennert 9mo ago

Same for me. My Pixel magically fixed scrambled words (and was very fast doing it). iOS is terrible, even without described bug. I am now much faster typing with the speech-to-text feature. Maybe that is what they are pushing. Maybe Apple wants to remove the keyboard and it is slowly increasing the friction so people use it less and less? Similarly how Chrome degrades browser performance until it gets restarted to force an update.

wongogue 9mo ago
Do you have any proof about Chrome? It gets slower nonetheless.

obvi8 9mo ago

In spite of the manufacturing drama it introduced, 3D Touch was an insanely great feature for editing alone. Push a little harder on the keyboard and have a cursor to easily place where you need it. I was real grumpy when they took it away. Editing had only become even worse since. I’d love to know what they’re trying to achieve.

majjam 9mo ago
Mine still does that, I just press and hold on the spacebar and can move the cursor around, are you sure its no longer available on your phone?
- n8cpdx 9mo ago
  Doesn’t work If the keyboard doesn’t have a spacebar - happens with numeric input. IIRC the old 3D Touch version worked on any key.
- snailmailman 9mo ago
  This was changed, and it is pretty easy to think the feature got removed. When it was pressure-sensitive, you could push harder anywhere on the keyboard. But now that it’s tap-and-hold, it only works on the space bar. Most other pressure-sensitive actions just got replaced with tap-and-hold with no changes. But doing that on any other key brings up letter-specific accents, so they moved it down to spacebar. It also used to be faster. Now you have to wait, but before it was pressure sensitive. You could trigger it instantly with more pressure. Edits were so fast and convenient, but now it’s a slight pause each time
  - 9dev 9mo ago
    You can still tap and hold in the text itself to bring up the magnifying glass gizmo, but yeah the experience is awful
embedding-shape 9mo ago
I'm not just grumpy, I'm baffled. Suddenly, when there is an URL or number input, when the hold-on-spacebar UX doesn't work because there is no spacebar, how could you even move the cursor left or right? Tapping in-between tiny letters is borderline impossible, and it isn't always in the right place to do the hold-and-slowly-move thing either, because the magnifying glass doesn't show up, so you can't see where you end up... It seems to me like for the last 5-6 years, the people who do decisions at Apple doesn't actually use the products themselves, or actually understand functional UX. Jobs would be ashamed.

organsnyder 9mo ago

I don't think it's "censorship" so much as it's defaulting to less-problematic phrases to avoid the opposite happening (you meaning to say "fill myself" or something). That could be jarring and lead to embarrassing situations. Maybe 99 times out of 100 someone means to type "fuck" instead of "duck", but it's a completely legitimate UX decision to optimize preventing that 1% case, even if it's annoying the other 99% of the time.

IshKebab 9mo ago
> it's a completely legitimate UX decision to optimize preventing that 1% case, even if it's annoying the other 99% of the time. Maybe, but only if there's a way to opt out of being annoyed 99% of the time. An "I'm a grown-up" button.
mrguyorama 9mo ago
IIRC, there was once a setting somewhere you could toggle to allow autocorrect to do "naughty" words. I think this used to be true on Android as well.

beeflet 9mo ago

just turn autocorrect off. You can learn to type pretty quickly without it, and you aren't subject to mind control.

m463 9mo ago

it's not just you. the iphone keyboard has gone to shot. and auto-correct has lost me data. I've typed in something important to remember and later when I go look at it ("call spaghetti before 5pm!"), I can't figure what I typed in. In the end, I learned to disable auto-capitalization, auto-correction and smart punctuation. and editing is a nightmare. Getting the cursor in the middle of a word is just about impossible, like highlighting just the characters you want to cut or copy.

neutronicus 9mo ago

It refuses to type "white people"! It's also infuriatingly difficult to type "and" (I get "ABs" all the time)