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the original article is factually incorrect. Accommodations at Stanford are only 25% of students, according to their website, and that includes every possible

the original article is factually incorrect. Accommodations at Stanford are only 25% of students, according to their website, and that includes every possible kind of accommodation, not just time and half on tests. If you had carpet replaced in your dorm because it gave you an allergy, it would be included. So, this is just an article that is just flat out bullshit.

EA-3167 10mo ago
The bullshit nature of the article becomes clear as the author repeatedly begs the question as the sole means of making her actual argument. Edit: To be clear there’s a lot of argument from incredulity or “obviously something is wrong,” without doing the work to establish that.
- user____name 10mo ago
  I wouldn't expect less from a site with that domain name.
Aurornis 10mo ago
> the original article is factually incorrect. Accommodations at Stanford are only 25% of students, according to their website, and that includes every possible kind of accommodation, The original article said 38% students are registered with the disability office, not that 38% of students have accommodations. Not all students registered with the disability office receive accommodations all of the time. 25% is still a very, very high number. The number of public universities is in the 3-4% range. From the article: > According to Weis’s research, only 3 to 4 percent of students at public two-year colleges receive accommodations, a proportion that has stayed relatively stable over the past 10 to 15 years.
- vasilipupkin 10mo ago
  yes, the original article is a flat out bullshit lie https://oae.stanford.edu/students/dispelling-myths-about-oae https://oae.stanford.edu/students/dispelling-myths-about-oae it's 25% registered, not 38%. How do you get this number wrong when Stanford has it on their website? how does that even happen? this number includes literally every type of possible accommodation. A shitty carpet in your room is included, an accommodation for a peanut allergy is included. This is a 90 plus a year private school, I think it's fine that you can get a shitty carpet replaced in a way maybe you couldn't at University of Akron ? what's the problem? it's a nothingnburger. the point is the article is somehow implying that 38% of students get some weird special treatment but that just is not the case
  - Aurornis 10mo ago
    Your link doesn't say "25%". It's also not an official, up-to-date statistics resource. It's website copy for the office of accessible education The "1 in 4" number has been there as far back as Wayback Machine has that paged archived (2023): http://web.archive.org/web/20230628165315/https://oae.stanford.edu/students/dispelling-myths-about-oae http://web.archive.org/web/20230628165315/https://oae.stanfo... So it's definitely not a precise statistic, and it's likely out of date.
    - vasilipupkin 10mo ago
      1 in 4 is 25% it's on their website. Along with all the other details. where is 38% coming from that is a better source than Stanford's own website. At a minumum the article should have said where they got that number and why it disagrees with Stanford's own number. And again, it includes every possible kind of accommodation under the sun. Which is totally fine and not an issue of any kind.
      - Aloisius 10mo ago
        The Atlantic journalist talked to Stanford Professor Paul Graham Fisher who was co-chair of the university’s disability task force, so I imagine they either got it from him or someone else at the school. They could have made it up, but since the article is a couple days old and no one has printed any retraction or correction, I'm more inclined to believe the number is accurate.
        vasilipupkin 10mo ago
        The number isn’t sourced. But the article does say 24% were receiving academic OR housing accommodation. So 38% registered disabled but only 24% receiving any type of accommodations sounds suspiciously like bullshit. It would require people registering and not using the thing they registered for. But most importantly, the OR plays a big role here. Where is the data on how many people are using academic accommodations ? Complaining that people at a 90k a year school receive a housing accommodation is just frankly absurd. The article heavily implies that people are somehow using these accommodations to gain an academic advantage, when in fact 24% of people use any kind of accommodation, which includes dirty carpet replacement.
- adolph 10mo ago
  > The number of public universities is in the 3-4% range. The National Center for Education Statistics disagrees with 3-4%. In 2019–20, some 21 percent of undergraduates and 11 percent of postbaccalaureate students reported having a disability. . . https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=60 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=60
  - Aurornis 10mo ago
    That's a different statistic. Not all students who report having a disability on a survey will be registered with their school's disability office.
    - adolph 10mo ago
      Fair enough. I formerly went through large schools' reported numbers, which isn't the most straightforward thing to find. UT Austin has 4,299 registered Spring of 2025, which is 12.9% of a 55k student population. Ohio has 5,724 of a total of 66,901, so 8%. FSU is ~5,000 of ~55,000: 10%. These are all much higher than the article's claim but definitely lower than the NCES survey. https://disability.utexas.edu/statistics/ https://disability.utexas.edu/statistics/ https://irp.osu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/2025/01/2024-25-statistical-summary.pdf https://irp.osu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/2025/01/20... https://dsst.fsu.edu/oas https://dsst.fsu.edu/oas
      - Aloisius 10mo ago
        This cites an NCES study which doesn't appears to be locked down to approved researchers, but it provides a national number: > In 2019-20, 8% of students registered as having a disability with their institution. This rate was 10% at non-proﬁt institutions, 7% at for-proﬁt institutions, and 7% of students at public institutions. https://pnpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/StudentswithDisabilities_FactSheet_Apr25.pdf https://pnpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/StudentswithDisa...
- BobaFloutist 10mo ago
  A public two-year college? So, a community college? That's a much more specific claim than that being the case for public universities overall.

EA-3167 10mo ago

The bullshit nature of the article becomes clear as the author repeatedly begs the question as the sole means of making her actual argument. Edit: To be clear there’s a lot of argument from incredulity or “obviously something is wrong,” without doing the work to establish that.

user____name 10mo ago
I wouldn't expect less from a site with that domain name.

Aurornis 10mo ago

> the original article is factually incorrect. Accommodations at Stanford are only 25% of students, according to their website, and that includes every possible kind of accommodation, The original article said 38% students are registered with the disability office, not that 38% of students have accommodations. Not all students registered with the disability office receive accommodations all of the time. 25% is still a very, very high number. The number of public universities is in the 3-4% range. From the article: > According to Weis’s research, only 3 to 4 percent of students at public two-year colleges receive accommodations, a proportion that has stayed relatively stable over the past 10 to 15 years.

vasilipupkin 10mo ago
yes, the original article is a flat out bullshit lie https://oae.stanford.edu/students/dispelling-myths-about-oae https://oae.stanford.edu/students/dispelling-myths-about-oae it's 25% registered, not 38%. How do you get this number wrong when Stanford has it on their website? how does that even happen? this number includes literally every type of possible accommodation. A shitty carpet in your room is included, an accommodation for a peanut allergy is included. This is a 90 plus a year private school, I think it's fine that you can get a shitty carpet replaced in a way maybe you couldn't at University of Akron ? what's the problem? it's a nothingnburger. the point is the article is somehow implying that 38% of students get some weird special treatment but that just is not the case
- Aurornis 10mo ago
  Your link doesn't say "25%". It's also not an official, up-to-date statistics resource. It's website copy for the office of accessible education The "1 in 4" number has been there as far back as Wayback Machine has that paged archived (2023): http://web.archive.org/web/20230628165315/https://oae.stanford.edu/students/dispelling-myths-about-oae http://web.archive.org/web/20230628165315/https://oae.stanfo... So it's definitely not a precise statistic, and it's likely out of date.
  - vasilipupkin 10mo ago
    1 in 4 is 25% it's on their website. Along with all the other details. where is 38% coming from that is a better source than Stanford's own website. At a minumum the article should have said where they got that number and why it disagrees with Stanford's own number. And again, it includes every possible kind of accommodation under the sun. Which is totally fine and not an issue of any kind.
    - Aloisius 10mo ago
      The Atlantic journalist talked to Stanford Professor Paul Graham Fisher who was co-chair of the university’s disability task force, so I imagine they either got it from him or someone else at the school. They could have made it up, but since the article is a couple days old and no one has printed any retraction or correction, I'm more inclined to believe the number is accurate.
      - vasilipupkin 10mo ago
        The number isn’t sourced. But the article does say 24% were receiving academic OR housing accommodation. So 38% registered disabled but only 24% receiving any type of accommodations sounds suspiciously like bullshit. It would require people registering and not using the thing they registered for. But most importantly, the OR plays a big role here. Where is the data on how many people are using academic accommodations ? Complaining that people at a 90k a year school receive a housing accommodation is just frankly absurd. The article heavily implies that people are somehow using these accommodations to gain an academic advantage, when in fact 24% of people use any kind of accommodation, which includes dirty carpet replacement.
adolph 10mo ago
> The number of public universities is in the 3-4% range. The National Center for Education Statistics disagrees with 3-4%. In 2019–20, some 21 percent of undergraduates and 11 percent of postbaccalaureate students reported having a disability. . . https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=60 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=60
- Aurornis 10mo ago
  That's a different statistic. Not all students who report having a disability on a survey will be registered with their school's disability office.
  - adolph 10mo ago
    Fair enough. I formerly went through large schools' reported numbers, which isn't the most straightforward thing to find. UT Austin has 4,299 registered Spring of 2025, which is 12.9% of a 55k student population. Ohio has 5,724 of a total of 66,901, so 8%. FSU is ~5,000 of ~55,000: 10%. These are all much higher than the article's claim but definitely lower than the NCES survey. https://disability.utexas.edu/statistics/ https://disability.utexas.edu/statistics/ https://irp.osu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/2025/01/2024-25-statistical-summary.pdf https://irp.osu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/2025/01/20... https://dsst.fsu.edu/oas https://dsst.fsu.edu/oas
    - Aloisius 10mo ago
      This cites an NCES study which doesn't appears to be locked down to approved researchers, but it provides a national number: > In 2019-20, 8% of students registered as having a disability with their institution. This rate was 10% at non-proﬁt institutions, 7% at for-proﬁt institutions, and 7% of students at public institutions. https://pnpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/StudentswithDisabilities_FactSheet_Apr25.pdf https://pnpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/StudentswithDisa...
BobaFloutist 10mo ago
A public two-year college? So, a community college? That's a much more specific claim than that being the case for public universities overall.