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What‘s going on with all these code-2-music tools these days? See other front page discussion about strudel.cc [1]. Did I enter an established bubble or is ther

by mstngl 10mo ago

What‘s going on with all these code-2-music tools these days? See other front page discussion about strudel.cc [1]. Did I enter an established bubble or is there a rising trend? It‘s incredible, though, what people are able to obtain with it, especially when built-up during a live session [2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46052478 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46052478 [2] Nice example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GWXCCBsOMSg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GWXCCBsOMSg

hecanjog 10mo ago
Computer music is as old as computers, live coding is pretty old too. (I posted this in the strudel discussion too: https://toplap.org/wiki/HistoricalPerformances https://toplap.org/wiki/HistoricalPerformances) Maybe everyone doing live streams during the pandemic helped get visibility for live coding? It's interesting to see it kind of becoming popular now.
- baq 10mo ago
  classic overnight success 20 years in the making. many such cases. I must say the narrated trance piece by switch angel blew me socks right off, to me feels like this should be a genre in itself.
- vidarh 10mo ago
  And simpler generative music significantly predates computers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musikalisches_W%C3%BCrfelspiel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musikalisches_W%C3%BCrfelspiel
c22 10mo ago
Often an article posted to hn will cause a mini-trend as users who are engaging with the subject discover and share more related resources.
cdr6934 10mo ago
My guess is we are either at the top or rising to the top of cyclical curve of the trend.
SmirkingRevenge 10mo ago
CSOUND is the oldest code-2-music framework I know of, and that's been here since the 80's, so the concept is not new The tools/frameworks have become more plentiful, approachable, and mature over the past 10-15 years, to the point where you can just go to strudel.cc and start coding music right from your browser.
jedimastert 10mo ago
I think the creator of the video you've linked has had a couple videos go viral, which may be part of it
RossBencina 10mo ago
Live coding music/visuals/art has been a fairly major subculture for over 15 years: https://blog.toplap.org/ https://blog.toplap.org/ Prior to that there was plenty of live/interactive code-based music going on within the computer music scene, HMSL (FORTH based)[1] and CLM (Lisp based)[2] come to mind. Real-time sound synthesis was tough to live-code, or to run in real-time at all, prior to the faster personal computers of the early 90s. (The tracker scene obviously pre-dates this, but in that case the actual sound synthesis algorithms weren't live coded.) In fact, code-to-music dates back to 1951[3], or 1957[4], depending on your definitions. There is a large history of development by many computer musicians following on from Max Matthews' MUSIC-N. The Computer Music Tutorial[5] is a good source for the academic/research institutions/serious composers part of the picture. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_Music_Specification_Language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_Music_Specificati... [2] https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/clm/ https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/clm/ [3] https://cis.unimelb.edu.au/about/history/csirac/music https://cis.unimelb.edu.au/about/history/csirac/music [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSIC-N https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSIC-N [5] https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262044912/the-computer-music-tutorial/ https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262044912/the-computer-music-tu...

by mstngl 10mo ago

hecanjog 10mo ago

Computer music is as old as computers, live coding is pretty old too. (I posted this in the strudel discussion too: https://toplap.org/wiki/HistoricalPerformances https://toplap.org/wiki/HistoricalPerformances) Maybe everyone doing live streams during the pandemic helped get visibility for live coding? It's interesting to see it kind of becoming popular now.

baq 10mo ago
classic overnight success 20 years in the making. many such cases. I must say the narrated trance piece by switch angel blew me socks right off, to me feels like this should be a genre in itself.
vidarh 10mo ago
And simpler generative music significantly predates computers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musikalisches_W%C3%BCrfelspiel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musikalisches_W%C3%BCrfelspiel

c22 10mo ago

Often an article posted to hn will cause a mini-trend as users who are engaging with the subject discover and share more related resources.

cdr6934 10mo ago

My guess is we are either at the top or rising to the top of cyclical curve of the trend.

SmirkingRevenge 10mo ago

CSOUND is the oldest code-2-music framework I know of, and that's been here since the 80's, so the concept is not new The tools/frameworks have become more plentiful, approachable, and mature over the past 10-15 years, to the point where you can just go to strudel.cc and start coding music right from your browser.

jedimastert 10mo ago

I think the creator of the video you've linked has had a couple videos go viral, which may be part of it

RossBencina 10mo ago

Live coding music/visuals/art has been a fairly major subculture for over 15 years: https://blog.toplap.org/ https://blog.toplap.org/ Prior to that there was plenty of live/interactive code-based music going on within the computer music scene, HMSL (FORTH based)[1] and CLM (Lisp based)[2] come to mind. Real-time sound synthesis was tough to live-code, or to run in real-time at all, prior to the faster personal computers of the early 90s. (The tracker scene obviously pre-dates this, but in that case the actual sound synthesis algorithms weren't live coded.) In fact, code-to-music dates back to 1951[3], or 1957[4], depending on your definitions. There is a large history of development by many computer musicians following on from Max Matthews' MUSIC-N. The Computer Music Tutorial[5] is a good source for the academic/research institutions/serious composers part of the picture. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_Music_Specification_Language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_Music_Specificati... [2] https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/clm/ https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/clm/ [3] https://cis.unimelb.edu.au/about/history/csirac/music https://cis.unimelb.edu.au/about/history/csirac/music [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSIC-N https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSIC-N [5] https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262044912/the-computer-music-tutorial/ https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262044912/the-computer-music-tu...