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I'd much prefer Jeremy Evans[0] taking over rather than DHH. Jeremy is a Ruby core committer (and much more pleasant person), unlike DHH. [0] - https://github.

I'd much prefer Jeremy Evans[0] taking over rather than DHH. Jeremy is a Ruby core committer (and much more pleasant person), unlike DHH. [0] - https://github.com/jeremyevans https://github.com/jeremyevans

brigandish 10mo ago
Anyone who won't discriminate against others for their politics would be an improvement, because that's not what's been happening in many core projects.
- throwaway48921 10mo ago
  I am not suggesting Jeremy Evans simply because of politics. I think he's very underrated in the community and the work he does is incredible. Having interacted with him a number of times, he's been really helpful and pleasant. I think those qualities make him a good candidate. Fun fact: Jeremy won the Ruby Prize 2019: https://rubyprize.jp/19_iv-nominees01-2-en.html https://rubyprize.jp/19_iv-nominees01-2-en.html
  - brigandish 10mo ago
    I agree. He has scolded me before though, for submitting code he didn't like the look of. Felt a tad harsh at the time, that's the kind of thing that puts people off contributing. However, he's a better programmer than me so if he didn't like it he's probably right. Could improve his bedside manner a bit though. I'm sure others have said that about me too, perhaps I'm a hypocrite. Regardless of that, anyone who doesn't discriminate against others for their politics would be an improvement. Edit: a improvement on the other westerners in the core team who might be touted as the next benevolent dictator, as I doubt that benevolence would maintain.
    - throwaway48921 10mo ago
      > I agree. He has scolded me before though, for submitting code he didn't like the look of. Heh, do you have a link to the PR?
      - brigandish 10mo ago
        Yes, Mr Throwaway, of course I do. What would you need it for?
    - jeltz 10mo ago
      In every interaction with Evans I have had he has been super nice and welcoming to contributors. Maybe he had a bad day.
      - brigandish 10mo ago
        Of course. He actually completely rewrote the code and still merged it in, so I got what I wanted. We've all had such experiences, I'm sure, but I was making the point that different people can have different experiences - I've had straightforward chats with Evan too. I'm sure people have had super nice and welcoming experiences with DHH too. Should we not include the negative ones for one person and the positive ones for another?
        jeltz 10mo ago
        I did not include any negative or positive about DHH since I have never interacted with him. He is unimportant to Ruby compared to Evans other than for historical reasons. Evans is a guy who has done a ton and still does a ton in the Ruby community.
        brigandish 10mo ago
        I use Sequel far more than Rails, but their relative importance is entirely different, and I suspect Ruby would be still be a minority language if Rails had not happened. Even if we take into account the numerous other contributions anyone could make, could they make up for or match Rails' impact? Doubtful. Hence, I find your claims a stretch. If Evans were to purge the politics from contributions to the community, then he would be a fine benevolent dictator, and would manage something Matz has failed with (amongst English speaking contributors, at least). That would probably require purging some of the people (as far as possible), as happened recently. Could he do that?
throwaway48921 10mo ago
Curious why this suggestion was downvoted to hell.
- jeltz 10mo ago
  No idea, Jeremy Evans is a really good coder and a nice person. Also a much more influential voice in the Ruby community than DHH.
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- igravious 10mo ago
  I've no idea Jeremy ;-)
  - jeltz 10mo ago
    That is clearly not Jeremy Evans. Maybe a funny joke if that innocent commenter had not been downvoted to hell.

brigandish 10mo ago

Anyone who won't discriminate against others for their politics would be an improvement, because that's not what's been happening in many core projects.

throwaway48921 10mo ago
I am not suggesting Jeremy Evans simply because of politics. I think he's very underrated in the community and the work he does is incredible. Having interacted with him a number of times, he's been really helpful and pleasant. I think those qualities make him a good candidate. Fun fact: Jeremy won the Ruby Prize 2019: https://rubyprize.jp/19_iv-nominees01-2-en.html https://rubyprize.jp/19_iv-nominees01-2-en.html
- brigandish 10mo ago
  I agree. He has scolded me before though, for submitting code he didn't like the look of. Felt a tad harsh at the time, that's the kind of thing that puts people off contributing. However, he's a better programmer than me so if he didn't like it he's probably right. Could improve his bedside manner a bit though. I'm sure others have said that about me too, perhaps I'm a hypocrite. Regardless of that, anyone who doesn't discriminate against others for their politics would be an improvement. Edit: a improvement on the other westerners in the core team who might be touted as the next benevolent dictator, as I doubt that benevolence would maintain.
  - throwaway48921 10mo ago
    > I agree. He has scolded me before though, for submitting code he didn't like the look of. Heh, do you have a link to the PR?
    - brigandish 10mo ago
      Yes, Mr Throwaway, of course I do. What would you need it for?
  - jeltz 10mo ago
    In every interaction with Evans I have had he has been super nice and welcoming to contributors. Maybe he had a bad day.
    - brigandish 10mo ago
      Of course. He actually completely rewrote the code and still merged it in, so I got what I wanted. We've all had such experiences, I'm sure, but I was making the point that different people can have different experiences - I've had straightforward chats with Evan too. I'm sure people have had super nice and welcoming experiences with DHH too. Should we not include the negative ones for one person and the positive ones for another?
      - jeltz 10mo ago
        I did not include any negative or positive about DHH since I have never interacted with him. He is unimportant to Ruby compared to Evans other than for historical reasons. Evans is a guy who has done a ton and still does a ton in the Ruby community.
        brigandish 10mo ago
        I use Sequel far more than Rails, but their relative importance is entirely different, and I suspect Ruby would be still be a minority language if Rails had not happened. Even if we take into account the numerous other contributions anyone could make, could they make up for or match Rails' impact? Doubtful. Hence, I find your claims a stretch. If Evans were to purge the politics from contributions to the community, then he would be a fine benevolent dictator, and would manage something Matz has failed with (amongst English speaking contributors, at least). That would probably require purging some of the people (as far as possible), as happened recently. Could he do that?

throwaway48921 10mo ago

Curious why this suggestion was downvoted to hell.

jeltz 10mo ago
No idea, Jeremy Evans is a really good coder and a nice person. Also a much more influential voice in the Ruby community than DHH.
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igravious 10mo ago
I've no idea Jeremy ;-)
- jeltz 10mo ago
  That is clearly not Jeremy Evans. Maybe a funny joke if that innocent commenter had not been downvoted to hell.