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I absolutely hate it, when a website says "try this" and after you went through the trouble of weiting something comes up with a sign up link first. Makes me le

by freak42 10mo ago

I absolutely hate it, when a website says "try this" and after you went through the trouble of weiting something comes up with a sign up link first. Makes me leave instantly to never come back.

schappim 10mo ago
I was doing a demo to my colleagues and had the above.
Alifatisk 10mo ago
Same with groq.com, there is a "try this", and after you enter the prompt, it asks you to sign in. Closed the page.
traceroute66 10mo ago
Headline at the top of the Cerebras page linked to by the OP "Cerebras Raises $1.1B Series G at $8.1B Valuation". If you're going after the AI money gravy train then you need to wave the "we have $n registered users" carrot on your PPT slides for the investors because registered user == monetization opportunity. I'm not defending it. I hate being forced to register for shit when I just want to try it or use the free tier. But it is what it is.
- Saline9515 10mo ago
  Well if they give it out for free (aka they pay for it), asking you to register is a reasonable ask. It's not a public service funded by taxpayers.
  - freak42 10mo ago
    Yes they can ask, but do it at the beginning not the end of the process, this is a dark pattern and fucking annoying.
    - magackame 10mo ago
      Anyone remember those online psychological tests where you spend an hour on one and in the end you need to pay up to get the result?)))
    - traceroute66 10mo ago
      > do it at the beginning not the end Exactly this. If you present me with a form and a submit button then I expect the input to go through and a result to be presented. If you don't want to present me with results before login, then put the form behind the wall too. Simple.
  - traceroute66 10mo ago
    > Well if they give it out for free (aka they pay for it), asking you to register is a reasonable ask They have other options... rate limiting, serving (more) quantized to non-registered etc. etc.
    - Saline9515 10mo ago
      Those options are still not free. And giving a degraded version of your product to free users is a bad way to acquire clients.
- cyanydeez 10mo ago
  Right, being proud of your money making is not something I consider a consumer focused product unless that customer is other moneyseeking orga, which like cancer, often ends up in a bubble.
anonym29 10mo ago
This is like declaring that a Ferrari dealership offering you a free test drive in a million dollar art exhibit on wheels is evil for asking for your phone number before handing you the keys. If this was some beat-to-hell, high-mileage used economy car, sure, that would be a pain in the ass, and not worth it. But it's a mistake to place Cerebras into that mental bucket. You don't even need to use real information to create an account. Just grab a temp-mail disposable address and sign up as fred flintstone or mickey mouse. If you're a heavy LLM inference user (i.e. if you've ever paid for a $200/mo sub from any of the big AI labs), I can damn near guarantee you will not regret trying out Cerebras.
- freak42 10mo ago
  You didn't get my point at all.
  - rpdillon 10mo ago
    Would your expectations be more aligned if it's said "free trial"? That might create an expectation of a sign up where "try this" might not.
moralestapia 10mo ago
Off topic but related. A week ago I went to a launch party for a product that's supposed to "revolutionize design" (a web app w/ an OAI prompt). No demo, only like two pictures of the actual product. Founder spent like half an hour giving a speech about the future, etc... "All of you here will get access to it in a couple weeks." Couple weeks go by ... I "get access". It's a .dmg, 1) What, I open it, it's not even an app, it's an installer ..., I install it, the app opens up and it's a giant red button that takes you to a website to create an account ... These guys are completely lost.

by freak42 10mo ago

I absolutely hate it, when a website says "try this" and after you went through the trouble of weiting something comes up with a sign up link first. Makes me leave instantly to never come back.

schappim 10mo ago

I was doing a demo to my colleagues and had the above.

Alifatisk 10mo ago

Same with groq.com, there is a "try this", and after you enter the prompt, it asks you to sign in. Closed the page.

traceroute66 10mo ago

Headline at the top of the Cerebras page linked to by the OP "Cerebras Raises $1.1B Series G at $8.1B Valuation". If you're going after the AI money gravy train then you need to wave the "we have $n registered users" carrot on your PPT slides for the investors because registered user == monetization opportunity. I'm not defending it. I hate being forced to register for shit when I just want to try it or use the free tier. But it is what it is.

Saline9515 10mo ago
Well if they give it out for free (aka they pay for it), asking you to register is a reasonable ask. It's not a public service funded by taxpayers.
- freak42 10mo ago
  Yes they can ask, but do it at the beginning not the end of the process, this is a dark pattern and fucking annoying.
  - magackame 10mo ago
    Anyone remember those online psychological tests where you spend an hour on one and in the end you need to pay up to get the result?)))
  - traceroute66 10mo ago
    > do it at the beginning not the end Exactly this. If you present me with a form and a submit button then I expect the input to go through and a result to be presented. If you don't want to present me with results before login, then put the form behind the wall too. Simple.
- traceroute66 10mo ago
  > Well if they give it out for free (aka they pay for it), asking you to register is a reasonable ask They have other options... rate limiting, serving (more) quantized to non-registered etc. etc.
  - Saline9515 10mo ago
    Those options are still not free. And giving a degraded version of your product to free users is a bad way to acquire clients.
cyanydeez 10mo ago
Right, being proud of your money making is not something I consider a consumer focused product unless that customer is other moneyseeking orga, which like cancer, often ends up in a bubble.

anonym29 10mo ago

This is like declaring that a Ferrari dealership offering you a free test drive in a million dollar art exhibit on wheels is evil for asking for your phone number before handing you the keys. If this was some beat-to-hell, high-mileage used economy car, sure, that would be a pain in the ass, and not worth it. But it's a mistake to place Cerebras into that mental bucket. You don't even need to use real information to create an account. Just grab a temp-mail disposable address and sign up as fred flintstone or mickey mouse. If you're a heavy LLM inference user (i.e. if you've ever paid for a $200/mo sub from any of the big AI labs), I can damn near guarantee you will not regret trying out Cerebras.

freak42 10mo ago
You didn't get my point at all.
- rpdillon 10mo ago
  Would your expectations be more aligned if it's said "free trial"? That might create an expectation of a sign up where "try this" might not.

moralestapia 10mo ago

Off topic but related. A week ago I went to a launch party for a product that's supposed to "revolutionize design" (a web app w/ an OAI prompt). No demo, only like two pictures of the actual product. Founder spent like half an hour giving a speech about the future, etc... "All of you here will get access to it in a couple weeks." Couple weeks go by ... I "get access". It's a .dmg, 1) What, I open it, it's not even an app, it's an installer ..., I install it, the app opens up and it's a giant red button that takes you to a website to create an account ... These guys are completely lost.