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I have canceled my Claude Max subscription because Sonnet 4.5 is just too unreliable. For the rest of the month I'm using Opus 4.1 which is much better but seem

by JanSt 11mo ago

I have canceled my Claude Max subscription because Sonnet 4.5 is just too unreliable. For the rest of the month I'm using Opus 4.1 which is much better but seems to have much lower usage limits than before Sonnet 4.5 was released. When I hit 4.1 Opus limits I'm using Codex. I will probably go through with the Codex pro subscription.

CuriouslyC 11mo ago
Definitely do it. You get a lot of deep research, access to GPT5 Pro, Sora and the Codex limits are MUCH higher.
- lukan 11mo ago
  Curious why this is downvoted? Wrong information?
  - CuriouslyC 11mo ago
    Don't try to comprehend the hive mind brother, there are a lot of shills and fanboys in addition to a lot of great people on this forum, sometimes the variance looks pretty bad. I hope the people downvoting get some minor joy out of it, I know you need it.
mccoyb 11mo ago
Sonnet 4.5 is way worse than Opus 4.1 -- it's incredible that they claim it's their best coding model. It's obvious if you've used the two models for any sort of complicated work. Codex with GPT-5 codex (high thinking) is better than both by a long shot, but takes longer to work. I've fully switched to Codex, and I used Claude Code for the past ~4 months as a daily driver for various things. I only reach for Sonnet now if Codex gets cagey about writing code -- then I let Sonnet rush ahead, and have Codex align the code with my overall plan.
virtualritz 11mo ago
> [...] I'm using Opus 4.1 which is much better but seems to have much lower usage limits than before Sonnet 4.5 was released [...] Yes, it's down from 40h/week to 3-5h/week on Max plan, effectively. A real bummer. See my comment here [1] regarding [2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45604301 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45604301 [2] https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/8449 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/8449
- thot_experiment 11mo ago
  Glad I'm not imagining it, I'll be cancelling my sub. Paying for things only for them to get worse and the provider hoping I don't notice is such a fucking vile tactic. In my experience sonnet 4.5 is basically pointless, it often gets non-trivial tasks wrong, and for trivial tasks I can use a local model or one of the myriad of providers that give free inference. EDIT: Holy shit I read the github issue, fuck these people. > We highly recommend Sonnet 4.5 -- Opus uses rate limits faster, and is not as capable for coding tasks. They're just straight gaslighting us now lmao.
- JanSt 10mo ago
  Thanks, didn't know that but aligns with my experience
prophesi 11mo ago
Opus 4.1 is better, but imo not 5 to 6 times the price better.

by JanSt 11mo ago

CuriouslyC 11mo ago

Definitely do it. You get a lot of deep research, access to GPT5 Pro, Sora and the Codex limits are MUCH higher.

lukan 11mo ago
Curious why this is downvoted? Wrong information?
- CuriouslyC 11mo ago
  Don't try to comprehend the hive mind brother, there are a lot of shills and fanboys in addition to a lot of great people on this forum, sometimes the variance looks pretty bad. I hope the people downvoting get some minor joy out of it, I know you need it.

mccoyb 11mo ago

Sonnet 4.5 is way worse than Opus 4.1 -- it's incredible that they claim it's their best coding model. It's obvious if you've used the two models for any sort of complicated work. Codex with GPT-5 codex (high thinking) is better than both by a long shot, but takes longer to work. I've fully switched to Codex, and I used Claude Code for the past ~4 months as a daily driver for various things. I only reach for Sonnet now if Codex gets cagey about writing code -- then I let Sonnet rush ahead, and have Codex align the code with my overall plan.

virtualritz 11mo ago

> [...] I'm using Opus 4.1 which is much better but seems to have much lower usage limits than before Sonnet 4.5 was released [...] Yes, it's down from 40h/week to 3-5h/week on Max plan, effectively. A real bummer. See my comment here [1] regarding [2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45604301 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45604301 [2] https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/8449 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/8449

thot_experiment 11mo ago
Glad I'm not imagining it, I'll be cancelling my sub. Paying for things only for them to get worse and the provider hoping I don't notice is such a fucking vile tactic. In my experience sonnet 4.5 is basically pointless, it often gets non-trivial tasks wrong, and for trivial tasks I can use a local model or one of the myriad of providers that give free inference. EDIT: Holy shit I read the github issue, fuck these people. > We highly recommend Sonnet 4.5 -- Opus uses rate limits faster, and is not as capable for coding tasks. They're just straight gaslighting us now lmao.
JanSt 10mo ago
Thanks, didn't know that but aligns with my experience

prophesi 11mo ago

Opus 4.1 is better, but imo not 5 to 6 times the price better.