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I just assume the entire Windows team uses OSX on their own time but have some kind of neural defect that prevents them from taking any lessons from it.

baq 11mo ago
OSX is not the paragon of UX, as evidenced by the long list of software I need to install to make it behave in a non-broken fashion. That said, I don’t think I disagree with your diagnosis. I’m just afraid they’re lifting more bad parts than good.
InitialBP 11mo ago
New macbooks with a notch hide icons underneath of the notch and those icons are completely inaccessible without installing 3rd party software to manage your status bar, or turning off a bunch of other software with visible icons on your bar. IMO that's a far worse UX than update and shutdown turning the computer back on at the end.
- mschuster91 11mo ago
  In a pinch you can reduce the spacing between items [1]. The default of macOS is ridiculously large. [1] https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/406316/can-the-spacing-of-menu-bar-apps-be-modified-in-macos-big-sur-and-later/465674#465674 https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/406316/can-the-spa...
- Groxx 11mo ago
  you can finally set a screen resolution that just stays below the notch! I'm not sure when that became available, but I just used it a couple weeks ago.
  - ValentineC 11mo ago
    The sad thing about the current state of macOS is that I'd rather install an app to manage the menu bar than upgrade to the liquid glass monstrosity that is macOS Tahoe. (I'm also not an early adopter. I only went to Sequoia from Ventura a few months ago.)
    - Groxx 11mo ago
      in case this implies you haven't found it: it's a feature in Sequoia :) it's just in display settings, though you may have to turn on the "show all resolutions" toggle to show it. I haven't used Tahoe personally for more than a moment on someone else's computer, but wow they did not think that UI redesign through at all, did they. I'm actually kinda glad I'm mac-less now.
handsclean 11mo ago
Sounds like a hard life. So much time spent on buggy, unintuitive, jumbled, and half-assed OS, then the only time they get away from it, they have to use Windows.

baq 11mo ago

OSX is not the paragon of UX, as evidenced by the long list of software I need to install to make it behave in a non-broken fashion. That said, I don’t think I disagree with your diagnosis. I’m just afraid they’re lifting more bad parts than good.

InitialBP 11mo ago

New macbooks with a notch hide icons underneath of the notch and those icons are completely inaccessible without installing 3rd party software to manage your status bar, or turning off a bunch of other software with visible icons on your bar. IMO that's a far worse UX than update and shutdown turning the computer back on at the end.

mschuster91 11mo ago
In a pinch you can reduce the spacing between items [1]. The default of macOS is ridiculously large. [1] https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/406316/can-the-spacing-of-menu-bar-apps-be-modified-in-macos-big-sur-and-later/465674#465674 https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/406316/can-the-spa...
Groxx 11mo ago
you can finally set a screen resolution that just stays below the notch! I'm not sure when that became available, but I just used it a couple weeks ago.
- ValentineC 11mo ago
  The sad thing about the current state of macOS is that I'd rather install an app to manage the menu bar than upgrade to the liquid glass monstrosity that is macOS Tahoe. (I'm also not an early adopter. I only went to Sequoia from Ventura a few months ago.)
  - Groxx 11mo ago
    in case this implies you haven't found it: it's a feature in Sequoia :) it's just in display settings, though you may have to turn on the "show all resolutions" toggle to show it. I haven't used Tahoe personally for more than a moment on someone else's computer, but wow they did not think that UI redesign through at all, did they. I'm actually kinda glad I'm mac-less now.

handsclean 11mo ago

Sounds like a hard life. So much time spent on buggy, unintuitive, jumbled, and half-assed OS, then the only time they get away from it, they have to use Windows.