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Everything but the Metric System: “The new YASA axial flux motor weighs just 28 pounds, or about the same as a small dog.” :)

by agys 11mo ago

defrost 11mo ago
The link you're quoting, the one posted, is a second hand US report. The primary company link is from a UK subsidiary of Mercedes-Benz and is (almost) fully metric (the fundemental units US weights are officially defined with respect to (for more than a century now)). See: https://yasa.com/news/yasa-smashes-own-unofficial-power-density-world-record-pushing-state-of-the-art-electric-motor-to-staggering-new-59kw-kg-benchmark/ https://yasa.com/news/yasa-smashes-own-unofficial-power-dens... Earlier in the summer YASA achieved 550kW (738bhp) from a 13.1kg version of its new axial flux prototype motor, equating to an unofficial power density world record of 42kW/kg Now latest testing of an even lighter 12.7kg version on a more powerful dynamometer has shattered this record, with a staggering 750kW (>1000bhp) short-term peak rating, resulting in a new unofficial power density record of 59kW/kg Just those pesky trad bhp units left hanging like a chad in a Florida election . . .
- eru 11mo ago
  > The link you're quoting, the one posted, is a second hand US report. You can tell, because a proper Brit would have given it as 2 stone, not 28 pound.
  - defrost 11mo ago
    That seems unlikely, a proper Brit would know that a stone is defined for body weight (14 avoirdupois pounds), Wool (14, 15, or 24 pounds depending on wool class), Wax (12 pounds), Sugar and spice (8 pounds), or for Beef and mutton (8 pounds). ( Of course Scottish Britains used 16 Scottish pounds for a Scottish stone ). The point being that 'precious' metals used a different weight measure altogether .. (common lead often used a 12 pound stone). Such a fun system.
    - inglor_cz 11mo ago
      Prior to the Revolution, in France alone there were allegedly 250 thousand various units in use! (All sorts of units, not just length.) It didn't help that pre-Revolutionary France was a political Frankenstein stitched together from dozens of regions with completely different history (Celtic Brittany, Flemish Dunkirk, Germanic Alsace, Provencal South, Catalan Roussillon, Italian Nice) and thus very different local standards of everything, including measurements and law. Unification of units removed a massive constraint on international trade and engineering. Except the US and Myanmar, of course... it is so frustrating to order anything from Myanmar e-shops, I must say. But Myanmar is at least promising to move on.
      - throw-the-towel 11mo ago
        Nitpicking: Nice wasn't part of pre-Revolution France, it joined in the 19th century during the Italian unification.
        rkomorn 11mo ago
        Is that nicepicking, then?
mrtksn 11mo ago
I wonder if Americans don't have a mental image for measurement units so that they alway use some physical object as a reference. Sure, its useful to use a common object as a reference but I don't see that much often in other places. Most people usually understand what it means something to be 20 meters, 5kg or 2 liters intuitively. Like, when I hear that something is 60m tall I intuitively think if it as 20 story apartment building and don't benefit from the extra info about how this is like 18 elephants stacked on each other.
- reactordev 11mo ago
  Americans do not do metric. Americans can’t even balance a checkbook. Hence the small dog reference for mental “clarity”. We’re dumb. Just look at the news…
  - dist-epoch 11mo ago
    Europeans don't even know what it means to "balance a checkbook", so they must be dumber.
    - reactordev 11mo ago
      Yeah but ya’ll have estates…
  - mrtksn 11mo ago
    Sure but don't they have a mental image for 80 feet for example? Why articles will almost always include something like "that like 50 chairs put next to each other" when length is mentioned.
    - reactordev 11mo ago
      If you were to say 100 yards, we could. That’s a football field (American football played with your… hands). Because people in the south don’t even know the imperial system… it’s bad. They say things like “Take the road there yonder and when you see the white church, turn right, go a ways until you get to the dirt road…” Anything outside of what they have with them, they don’t have a clue or can’t imagine it accurately. Small dog reference, there’s millions of Americans with a small dog so most just looked to their pooch when this came up. Same as if you were to say something like 50 cars. They would look outside to their Toyota Corolla and imagine 50 of them. It’s like talking to grown toddlers sometimes but that have full grown emotional states not under control. Not everyone is like this but a good 50-60% of Americans are. Just look for the Lululemon.
BatteryMountain 11mo ago
Bag of potatoes?
- beAbU 11mo ago
  If you mean a 13kg bag of potatoes, then I'll allow it.
renewiltord 11mo ago
Sometimes leads to humorous effect https://x.com/SheriffAlert/status/1221881862244749315 https://x.com/SheriffAlert/status/1221881862244749315 > Large boulder the size of a small boulder is completely blocking east-bound lane Highway 145 mm78 at Silverpick Rd
thelastgallon 11mo ago
If I were a self-respecting journalist, I would've used 3.26 gallon milk jugs. Small dog automatically goes to which breed? Chihuahua (fits in a toddlers purse) or Border Collie or Golden Retriever or Saint Bernard (needs an SUV/minivan)? 4 different classifications based on size!
inglor_cz 11mo ago
Is even a 13 kg dog "small"? It certainly does not feel small if you are carrying it upstairs.
- mattmaroon 11mo ago
  While there’s no formal definition, I think it isn’t. It would be considered medium sized. I live with a 4 lb dog. I’d say 25-50 lbs would be medium, small below that and large above.
- Scarblac 11mo ago
  It's American small.
bigtones 11mo ago
Americans are very weird when it comes to metric. They often quote mobile phones as having something like "a six inch screen size but now only 12mm thick" - pick a measurement system people !
- port3000 11mo ago
  The inch thing is because it's a screen: all screens are measured in inches pretty much everywhere, even in the EU
  - jve 11mo ago
    Yep, inches won for screen sizes. Aaaand for various fittings for plumbers.
  - hiccuphippo 11mo ago
    And I hate that. Wish screen sizes were measured in centimeters.
- fnord77 11mo ago
  the author and the company are British
- huhtenberg 11mo ago
  Canada is even weirder. After switching to the metric system ('70-80s) some things are still measures in imperial units. If you slice some ham at a counter in a grocery store, it's in grams. You then turn around and get a pound of apples and a gallon of milk. Nuts are in grams, and soda is in liters. Also the body weight tends to be in pounds. Tools are both metric and imperial. Speeds and distances though, thank god, are metric. All this is just kinda there and everyone's OK with it, but it is an epic mess if you think about it.
- AngryData 11mo ago
  I like having more choices for units. Sometimes the "correct" unit is extremely inconvient to deal with, either because the unit sizes are oddly out of proportion with the things being measured, or the things being measured have odd ratios with the units. Sometimes even making your own unit system or going with pure ratio relationships between objects is the most useful and effective way to measure things. And I feel that people who only ever use a single system of measurement often fail to see it and put themselves at a large disadvantage. To me using only a single system of measurement is the same as only ever using a single number base. Yeah it helps to have a standard number base everyone can use like base 10, but that doesn't mean we should try to eliminate other number bases from our vocabulary or understanding because they obviously have situational advantages. Also from my personal bias I much prefer fractional measurements and people go apeshit if you use fractional metric units but don't blink an eye at fractional imperial or other 'non-standard' measurements.
kitd 11mo ago
Imperial dog or metric dogge?

Everything but the Metric System: “The new YASA axial flux motor weighs just 28 pounds, or about the same as a small dog.” :)

by agys 11mo ago

Everything but the Metric System: “The new YASA axial flux motor weighs just 28 pounds, or about the same as a small dog.” :)

defrost 11mo ago

The link you're quoting, the one posted, is a second hand US report. The primary company link is from a UK subsidiary of Mercedes-Benz and is (almost) fully metric (the fundemental units US weights are officially defined with respect to (for more than a century now)). See: https://yasa.com/news/yasa-smashes-own-unofficial-power-density-world-record-pushing-state-of-the-art-electric-motor-to-staggering-new-59kw-kg-benchmark/ https://yasa.com/news/yasa-smashes-own-unofficial-power-dens... Earlier in the summer YASA achieved 550kW (738bhp) from a 13.1kg version of its new axial flux prototype motor, equating to an unofficial power density world record of 42kW/kg Now latest testing of an even lighter 12.7kg version on a more powerful dynamometer has shattered this record, with a staggering 750kW (>1000bhp) short-term peak rating, resulting in a new unofficial power density record of 59kW/kg Just those pesky trad bhp units left hanging like a chad in a Florida election . . .

eru 11mo ago
> The link you're quoting, the one posted, is a second hand US report. You can tell, because a proper Brit would have given it as 2 stone, not 28 pound.
- defrost 11mo ago
  That seems unlikely, a proper Brit would know that a stone is defined for body weight (14 avoirdupois pounds), Wool (14, 15, or 24 pounds depending on wool class), Wax (12 pounds), Sugar and spice (8 pounds), or for Beef and mutton (8 pounds). ( Of course Scottish Britains used 16 Scottish pounds for a Scottish stone ). The point being that 'precious' metals used a different weight measure altogether .. (common lead often used a 12 pound stone). Such a fun system.
  - inglor_cz 11mo ago
    Prior to the Revolution, in France alone there were allegedly 250 thousand various units in use! (All sorts of units, not just length.) It didn't help that pre-Revolutionary France was a political Frankenstein stitched together from dozens of regions with completely different history (Celtic Brittany, Flemish Dunkirk, Germanic Alsace, Provencal South, Catalan Roussillon, Italian Nice) and thus very different local standards of everything, including measurements and law. Unification of units removed a massive constraint on international trade and engineering. Except the US and Myanmar, of course... it is so frustrating to order anything from Myanmar e-shops, I must say. But Myanmar is at least promising to move on.
    - throw-the-towel 11mo ago
      Nitpicking: Nice wasn't part of pre-Revolution France, it joined in the 19th century during the Italian unification.
      - rkomorn 11mo ago
        Is that nicepicking, then?

mrtksn 11mo ago

I wonder if Americans don't have a mental image for measurement units so that they alway use some physical object as a reference. Sure, its useful to use a common object as a reference but I don't see that much often in other places. Most people usually understand what it means something to be 20 meters, 5kg or 2 liters intuitively. Like, when I hear that something is 60m tall I intuitively think if it as 20 story apartment building and don't benefit from the extra info about how this is like 18 elephants stacked on each other.

reactordev 11mo ago
Americans do not do metric. Americans can’t even balance a checkbook. Hence the small dog reference for mental “clarity”. We’re dumb. Just look at the news…
- dist-epoch 11mo ago
  Europeans don't even know what it means to "balance a checkbook", so they must be dumber.
  - reactordev 11mo ago
    Yeah but ya’ll have estates…
- mrtksn 11mo ago
  Sure but don't they have a mental image for 80 feet for example? Why articles will almost always include something like "that like 50 chairs put next to each other" when length is mentioned.
  - reactordev 11mo ago
    If you were to say 100 yards, we could. That’s a football field (American football played with your… hands). Because people in the south don’t even know the imperial system… it’s bad. They say things like “Take the road there yonder and when you see the white church, turn right, go a ways until you get to the dirt road…” Anything outside of what they have with them, they don’t have a clue or can’t imagine it accurately. Small dog reference, there’s millions of Americans with a small dog so most just looked to their pooch when this came up. Same as if you were to say something like 50 cars. They would look outside to their Toyota Corolla and imagine 50 of them. It’s like talking to grown toddlers sometimes but that have full grown emotional states not under control. Not everyone is like this but a good 50-60% of Americans are. Just look for the Lululemon.

BatteryMountain 11mo ago

Bag of potatoes?

beAbU 11mo ago
If you mean a 13kg bag of potatoes, then I'll allow it.

renewiltord 11mo ago

Sometimes leads to humorous effect https://x.com/SheriffAlert/status/1221881862244749315 https://x.com/SheriffAlert/status/1221881862244749315 > Large boulder the size of a small boulder is completely blocking east-bound lane Highway 145 mm78 at Silverpick Rd

thelastgallon 11mo ago

If I were a self-respecting journalist, I would've used 3.26 gallon milk jugs. Small dog automatically goes to which breed? Chihuahua (fits in a toddlers purse) or Border Collie or Golden Retriever or Saint Bernard (needs an SUV/minivan)? 4 different classifications based on size!

inglor_cz 11mo ago

Is even a 13 kg dog "small"? It certainly does not feel small if you are carrying it upstairs.

mattmaroon 11mo ago
While there’s no formal definition, I think it isn’t. It would be considered medium sized. I live with a 4 lb dog. I’d say 25-50 lbs would be medium, small below that and large above.
Scarblac 11mo ago
It's American small.

bigtones 11mo ago

Americans are very weird when it comes to metric. They often quote mobile phones as having something like "a six inch screen size but now only 12mm thick" - pick a measurement system people !

port3000 11mo ago
The inch thing is because it's a screen: all screens are measured in inches pretty much everywhere, even in the EU
- jve 11mo ago
  Yep, inches won for screen sizes. Aaaand for various fittings for plumbers.
- hiccuphippo 11mo ago
  And I hate that. Wish screen sizes were measured in centimeters.
fnord77 11mo ago
the author and the company are British
huhtenberg 11mo ago
Canada is even weirder. After switching to the metric system ('70-80s) some things are still measures in imperial units. If you slice some ham at a counter in a grocery store, it's in grams. You then turn around and get a pound of apples and a gallon of milk. Nuts are in grams, and soda is in liters. Also the body weight tends to be in pounds. Tools are both metric and imperial. Speeds and distances though, thank god, are metric. All this is just kinda there and everyone's OK with it, but it is an epic mess if you think about it.
AngryData 11mo ago
I like having more choices for units. Sometimes the "correct" unit is extremely inconvient to deal with, either because the unit sizes are oddly out of proportion with the things being measured, or the things being measured have odd ratios with the units. Sometimes even making your own unit system or going with pure ratio relationships between objects is the most useful and effective way to measure things. And I feel that people who only ever use a single system of measurement often fail to see it and put themselves at a large disadvantage. To me using only a single system of measurement is the same as only ever using a single number base. Yeah it helps to have a standard number base everyone can use like base 10, but that doesn't mean we should try to eliminate other number bases from our vocabulary or understanding because they obviously have situational advantages. Also from my personal bias I much prefer fractional measurements and people go apeshit if you use fractional metric units but don't blink an eye at fractional imperial or other 'non-standard' measurements.

kitd 11mo ago

Imperial dog or metric dogge?