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It's pretty frustrating that every release is IOS first without any timeline or expectation for Android

outime 11mo ago
This may explain it: https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/06/iphone-users-spend-apps/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/06/iphone-users-spend-apps/
- poly2it 11mo ago
  It is also relevant to know if a user who'd otherwise use app X on iOS would use X less on Android.
- rldjbpin 11mo ago
  this makes sense for apps where you pay up front to use it. for subscription-based services, this idea falls flat. in fact, apple made it harder for apps to take payments from its users in the past than others.
pjmlp 11mo ago
It is basically a US centric view of mobile OS market share.
- aaronbrethorst 11mo ago
  Anthropic is a US-based company.
  - OJFord 11mo ago
    With a global market and extant user base.
  - pjmlp 11mo ago
    Some companies would rather have a more international user base. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide So maybe they rather please the home market, I guess.
bahmboo 11mo ago
Anthropic and Apple have a strategic partnership. It's a bit dicey but still seems to be in play. Which is interesting considering Google is a major investor and Apple is not. Anthropic wants Apple as a paying customer. Apple wants them to bend the knee.
- lvl155 11mo ago
  Apple also has relationship with OAI. They’re not preferential.
  - bahmboo 11mo ago
    Yes but the question was why Anthropic is showing more attention to iOS vs Android.
alwillis 11mo ago
Not unusual; most high profile apps ship on iOS first, going back to Instagram [1], which was released October 10, 2010. Instagram shipped their Android version 1.5 years later. [1]: https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/Instagram https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/Instagram
- spondyl 11mo ago
  Another, not incompatible explanation is that it's also just easier to develop for a handful of known iOS/iPadOS targets compared to Android's unbounded set of screen sizes and device specs.
  - wahnfrieden 11mo ago
    If your app runs on iPadOS, you already need to support every "screen size" (window size) Android is simply a much worse platform to make money on. Users spend <25% as much as iOS users. Why would they prioritize that?
    - djmips 11mo ago
      In practice Android is much more difficult to handle the myriad of offerings - Have you ever tried both? To your other point, what app spend would Anthropic be worried about - they have a subscription model.
      - mh- 11mo ago
        Anthropic supports in-app purchases for Claude subscriptions, at least in the US.
      - wahnfrieden 11mo ago
        They sell through the app, too. And Android users are just as unlikely to spend outside of apps as they are inside them. Android deprioritization is a business decision, not a technical complexity decision.
    - 11mo ago
wahnfrieden 11mo ago
Android is a tiny market
- OJFord 11mo ago
  You probably mean 'in the US', where iOS is 58%. Android has a 71% global market share.
  - wahnfrieden 11mo ago
    No. Why do user counts matter? High user count but with >4x thriftiness / aversion to spending is not an attractive market over iOS. Globally in dollars spent, not human heads. iOS is over 2x larger than Android globally, and the gap is widening year over year. iOS spending growth outpaces Android, which even shrunk during covid while iOS spending continued to grow https://api.backlinko.com/app/uploads/2024/03/iphone-vs-android-app-spending-1440x1094.webp https://api.backlinko.com/app/uploads/2024/03/iphone-vs-andr... Anthropic makes money off product sales, not ad revenue, so wallets count more than eyes for this. Free users who are less than 25% as likely to spend are a burden not to be prioritized for a product business with free tier access. They need to spend much more to get a paying user on Android. If Android were the bigger market, they'd prioritize it
  - bdcravens 11mo ago
    Yes, if all you consider are the number of devices in use. However once you segment by devices with performance to run a given app and financial demographics that match your target customer, the numbers change.
richardw 11mo ago
It’s much harder dealing with all the complexities of different devices, screen sizes, OS versions. https://www.reddit.com/r/applesucks/comments/1k6m2fi/why_do_so_many_publish_for_ios_before_android/ https://www.reddit.com/r/applesucks/comments/1k6m2fi/why_do_...

outime 11mo ago

This may explain it: https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/06/iphone-users-spend-apps/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/06/iphone-users-spend-apps/

poly2it 11mo ago
It is also relevant to know if a user who'd otherwise use app X on iOS would use X less on Android.
rldjbpin 11mo ago
this makes sense for apps where you pay up front to use it. for subscription-based services, this idea falls flat. in fact, apple made it harder for apps to take payments from its users in the past than others.

pjmlp 11mo ago

It is basically a US centric view of mobile OS market share.

aaronbrethorst 11mo ago
Anthropic is a US-based company.
- OJFord 11mo ago
  With a global market and extant user base.
- pjmlp 11mo ago
  Some companies would rather have a more international user base. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide So maybe they rather please the home market, I guess.

bahmboo 11mo ago

Anthropic and Apple have a strategic partnership. It's a bit dicey but still seems to be in play. Which is interesting considering Google is a major investor and Apple is not. Anthropic wants Apple as a paying customer. Apple wants them to bend the knee.

lvl155 11mo ago
Apple also has relationship with OAI. They’re not preferential.
- bahmboo 11mo ago
  Yes but the question was why Anthropic is showing more attention to iOS vs Android.

alwillis 11mo ago

Not unusual; most high profile apps ship on iOS first, going back to Instagram [1], which was released October 10, 2010. Instagram shipped their Android version 1.5 years later. [1]: https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/Instagram https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/Instagram

spondyl 11mo ago
Another, not incompatible explanation is that it's also just easier to develop for a handful of known iOS/iPadOS targets compared to Android's unbounded set of screen sizes and device specs.
- wahnfrieden 11mo ago
  If your app runs on iPadOS, you already need to support every "screen size" (window size) Android is simply a much worse platform to make money on. Users spend <25% as much as iOS users. Why would they prioritize that?
  - djmips 11mo ago
    In practice Android is much more difficult to handle the myriad of offerings - Have you ever tried both? To your other point, what app spend would Anthropic be worried about - they have a subscription model.
    - mh- 11mo ago
      Anthropic supports in-app purchases for Claude subscriptions, at least in the US.
    - wahnfrieden 11mo ago
      They sell through the app, too. And Android users are just as unlikely to spend outside of apps as they are inside them. Android deprioritization is a business decision, not a technical complexity decision.
  - 11mo ago

wahnfrieden 11mo ago

Android is a tiny market

OJFord 11mo ago
You probably mean 'in the US', where iOS is 58%. Android has a 71% global market share.
- wahnfrieden 11mo ago
  No. Why do user counts matter? High user count but with >4x thriftiness / aversion to spending is not an attractive market over iOS. Globally in dollars spent, not human heads. iOS is over 2x larger than Android globally, and the gap is widening year over year. iOS spending growth outpaces Android, which even shrunk during covid while iOS spending continued to grow https://api.backlinko.com/app/uploads/2024/03/iphone-vs-android-app-spending-1440x1094.webp https://api.backlinko.com/app/uploads/2024/03/iphone-vs-andr... Anthropic makes money off product sales, not ad revenue, so wallets count more than eyes for this. Free users who are less than 25% as likely to spend are a burden not to be prioritized for a product business with free tier access. They need to spend much more to get a paying user on Android. If Android were the bigger market, they'd prioritize it
- bdcravens 11mo ago
  Yes, if all you consider are the number of devices in use. However once you segment by devices with performance to run a given app and financial demographics that match your target customer, the numbers change.

richardw 11mo ago

It’s much harder dealing with all the complexities of different devices, screen sizes, OS versions. https://www.reddit.com/r/applesucks/comments/1k6m2fi/why_do_so_many_publish_for_ios_before_android/ https://www.reddit.com/r/applesucks/comments/1k6m2fi/why_do_...