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Yes but some anecdotes are closer to evidence than others. And people seem to be treating the above anecdote like it is evidence. Which we both agree it isn't.
by froobius 11mo ago
Yes but some anecdotes are closer to evidence than others. And people seem to be treating the above anecdote like it is evidence. Which we both agree it isn't.
It isn't convincing given the time frame / lack of comparison.
- simmerup 11mo agoPeople are adults and can be willing to take chances on anecdotes instead of waiting 30 years for science to maybe fund some studies that end up just as murky
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- froobius 11mo agoSure, I don't disagree with that. Although, in addition to labelling something as an anecdote, it's also useful to flag the confounding factors.
- benterix 11mo agoMy friend had a kid with a bad eczema. She tried everything. Desperate, she took her to one of these charlatans. He asked the girl to stand on a copper plate. After a few days the eczema disappeared. Now my friend totally believes in all this stuff.
- simmerup 11mo agoThe risk to reward ratio there is off the charts though.
- rogerrogerr 11mo agoI mean, if I didn’t have anything else I was trying that could plausibly explain it, that’d be really hard to resist accepting as the cause. Totally understand it.
- Retric 11mo agoIt’s hard to internalize we see permanent and seemingly arbitrary changes from things like hormone levels. The last teen pimple for example isn’t noticeable in the moment as the last teen pimple because you don’t know the future etc etc.
- cootsnuck 11mo agoWe still don't understand the placebo effect. But definitely better to accept it's a thing and move on than believe grifters actually know what they're talking about.
- Retric 11mo agoThe placebo effect is unlikely to be important here. Hormonal changes mean people have permanent differences in their skin at specific points in time. Eczema is known to respond more cyclically with menstrual cycles, which is a lot easier to correlate.
- stickfigure 11mo ago"Biome recolonized by the bacteria of hundreds of other people who also put their dirty feet on the plate"
- msandford 11mo agoIt's a wonderful theory, but alas. Copper is aggressively antimicrobial. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimicrobial_properties_of_copper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimicrobial_properties_of_co...
- Retric 11mo agoAntimicrobial isn’t the same thing as sterile. You can culture bacteria after swabbing a copper plate people are touching.
- dgfitz 11mo agoI have small amounts of eczema on unfortunate spots. It comes and goes usually based on stress and inflammation. Been dealing with it for decades. It stinks. I’m half tempted to buy myself a copper plate to stand on.
- dotancohen 11mo agoThink of it as an investment. Copper is getting more valuable every day.
- emmelaich 11mo agoIt's probably the stopping of other treatments that fixed it. I had bad eczema and psoriasis. It stopped (after weeks) after I stopped treating it with random creams and taking cool showers. I later found out that the culprit was lidocaine. Also copper is biocidal, so maybe there's something there.
- masfuerte 11mo agoIt is evidence. It's not proof.