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Gaming on linux has been awesome for years. With the advent of systems like bazzite, the transition is only getting easier.

entropie 11mo ago
As far as I know almost all (if not all) anti cheat software just does not work on linux therefore "gaming on linux has been awesome for years" is not true if you play games online or competitive.
- jogu 11mo ago
  This is simply not true. Most anti-cheat software does work on linux, but many games choose not to allow linux. This has a good list of what works and what doesn't: https://areweanticheatyet.com https://areweanticheatyet.com
  - Kbelicius 11mo ago
    AFAIK on linux they are not kernel level and thus are easier to work around. It isn't just that devs are lazy or hate linux.
    - jogu 11mo ago
      Yeah, totally understand it isn't that simple but that's also my point. "Game has anti-cheat so it doesn't work on linux" is an oversimplification and people should check the specific games they're interested in. They could very well work if the developer allows it.
  - entropie 11mo ago
    > This is simply not true. Most anti-cheat software does work on linux, but many games choose not to allow linux. Iam not sure if I care whether the AC software does work (theoretically) on linux. Most of the games with AC cannot be played on linux. (You can see this on the graphic you linked). I tried it long enough. I played MTG Arena with lutris and every patch day was a frickle. I don't even play FPS games seriously, let alone competitively, but many of the games I play don't run on Linux. It's that simple. I've been using Linux daily for 25 years, but I have a dual boot with Windows. A week ago, I taught my NixOS to boot with secure boot because the new Battlefield requires it—and other games will follow.
    - jogu 11mo ago
      Don't get me wrong, gaming on linux still has many sharp edges and anti-cheat is definitely one of them. I just felt "almost all (if not all) games" was misleading, and some 40% of the games with anti-cheat are indeed playable on linux.
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- alias_neo 11mo ago
  I'm generally not an online gaming, never enjoyed PvP, so gaming on Linux has been a breeze for me. I recently got into playing Helldivers 2 with some family members and luckily for me it works just fine. My opinion is that Linux gaming is most suited for majority single-player gamers like myself.
- account42 11mo ago
  If you are worried about what Microsoft is doing you should be even more worried about running anti cheat malware on your computer. This is like saying you won't stop smoking because then you might get less cancer.
4ggr0 11mo ago
+1, switched to Bazzite about three weeks ago. I did have to dualboot a Windows after a couple of days, unfortunately. Mostly related to Anti-Cheat and other shitty measures. Dark Souls II did not want to recognize my Controller, even though it works fine in every other game. Skate can't be played on Linux because of Anti-Cheat, but fuck EA anyways. Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, Dishonored 2 and Death to the Outsider and Bioshock worked fine. Did have to tinker with the graphics settings a bit and the experience is definitely buggier than on Windows, but the huge upside is that I don't have to use Windows anymore, or at least just as a fallback-option. I know care 0 about the Windows, it's on a separate SSD, haven't even set a Wallpaper or other things, which is rare for me.
- alias_neo 11mo ago
  I've been gaming on Linux for about a decade, it has improved massively since Proton, and I'm at the point where I'm able to play Helldivers 2 with its anti-cheat with my buddies and get great performance (the game's performance/bug issues aside). I tried Bazzite for a while on my desktop, it's fantastic for gaming, but I'm also a dev and a Linux user since I was a teen (almost all of the years of Linux) so I found it a little limiting for my other PC related stuff (I typically prefer to run Arch and Arch based distros on my machines). For anyone with a computer dedicated to gaming I'd recommend Bazzite, I still run it on my ROG Ally since the moment I took it out of the box; I bought it _because_ Bazzite existed, never even considered booting Windows. It's a great distro tuned for gaming, and comes with some features like VRR and HDR that aren't as easily available on other distros (I've been able to get HDR on Arch/Gnome but not VRR). It's hard for someone who relies on Windows software to be entirely rid of Windows, which is why I don't tell people they should switch to Linux, but it's not impossible if you really want to, unless you rely on a piece of software that just won't run under WINE or doesn't have an alternative. For me, I grew up with Linux alongside Windows, went into a career that uses and targets Linux exclusively (backend SE) and for my computer based hobbies; gaming, coding, 3D printing/modelling they're served very well these days, and constantly improving.
  - 4ggr0 11mo ago
    for me Bazzite is perfect, as my Home-PC really is 99% used for gaming. every couple of years i want to edit a video, guess i'll need to search for another software, or just install Davinci Resolve on the dualbooted Windows :D don't have as much Proton experience as you, but i also feel like it's gotten way better compared to 4-5 years ago when i first tried it. i'm always very mindful when suggesting people to use Linux, as like you i work with Linux daily, so of course i'm going to have less trouble using it compared to Joe Schmoe who exclusively uses Windows and never installed an OS himself. but for people who aren't afraid of tinkering a bit, sure. now at the point where i'm considering switching to AMD from NVIDIA, just because it seems way better for Linux.

entropie 11mo ago

As far as I know almost all (if not all) anti cheat software just does not work on linux therefore "gaming on linux has been awesome for years" is not true if you play games online or competitive.

jogu 11mo ago
This is simply not true. Most anti-cheat software does work on linux, but many games choose not to allow linux. This has a good list of what works and what doesn't: https://areweanticheatyet.com https://areweanticheatyet.com
- Kbelicius 11mo ago
  AFAIK on linux they are not kernel level and thus are easier to work around. It isn't just that devs are lazy or hate linux.
  - jogu 11mo ago
    Yeah, totally understand it isn't that simple but that's also my point. "Game has anti-cheat so it doesn't work on linux" is an oversimplification and people should check the specific games they're interested in. They could very well work if the developer allows it.
- entropie 11mo ago
  > This is simply not true. Most anti-cheat software does work on linux, but many games choose not to allow linux. Iam not sure if I care whether the AC software does work (theoretically) on linux. Most of the games with AC cannot be played on linux. (You can see this on the graphic you linked). I tried it long enough. I played MTG Arena with lutris and every patch day was a frickle. I don't even play FPS games seriously, let alone competitively, but many of the games I play don't run on Linux. It's that simple. I've been using Linux daily for 25 years, but I have a dual boot with Windows. A week ago, I taught my NixOS to boot with secure boot because the new Battlefield requires it—and other games will follow.
  - jogu 11mo ago
    Don't get me wrong, gaming on linux still has many sharp edges and anti-cheat is definitely one of them. I just felt "almost all (if not all) games" was misleading, and some 40% of the games with anti-cheat are indeed playable on linux.
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alias_neo 11mo ago
I'm generally not an online gaming, never enjoyed PvP, so gaming on Linux has been a breeze for me. I recently got into playing Helldivers 2 with some family members and luckily for me it works just fine. My opinion is that Linux gaming is most suited for majority single-player gamers like myself.
account42 11mo ago
If you are worried about what Microsoft is doing you should be even more worried about running anti cheat malware on your computer. This is like saying you won't stop smoking because then you might get less cancer.

4ggr0 11mo ago

+1, switched to Bazzite about three weeks ago. I did have to dualboot a Windows after a couple of days, unfortunately. Mostly related to Anti-Cheat and other shitty measures. Dark Souls II did not want to recognize my Controller, even though it works fine in every other game. Skate can't be played on Linux because of Anti-Cheat, but fuck EA anyways. Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, Dishonored 2 and Death to the Outsider and Bioshock worked fine. Did have to tinker with the graphics settings a bit and the experience is definitely buggier than on Windows, but the huge upside is that I don't have to use Windows anymore, or at least just as a fallback-option. I know care 0 about the Windows, it's on a separate SSD, haven't even set a Wallpaper or other things, which is rare for me.

alias_neo 11mo ago
I've been gaming on Linux for about a decade, it has improved massively since Proton, and I'm at the point where I'm able to play Helldivers 2 with its anti-cheat with my buddies and get great performance (the game's performance/bug issues aside). I tried Bazzite for a while on my desktop, it's fantastic for gaming, but I'm also a dev and a Linux user since I was a teen (almost all of the years of Linux) so I found it a little limiting for my other PC related stuff (I typically prefer to run Arch and Arch based distros on my machines). For anyone with a computer dedicated to gaming I'd recommend Bazzite, I still run it on my ROG Ally since the moment I took it out of the box; I bought it _because_ Bazzite existed, never even considered booting Windows. It's a great distro tuned for gaming, and comes with some features like VRR and HDR that aren't as easily available on other distros (I've been able to get HDR on Arch/Gnome but not VRR). It's hard for someone who relies on Windows software to be entirely rid of Windows, which is why I don't tell people they should switch to Linux, but it's not impossible if you really want to, unless you rely on a piece of software that just won't run under WINE or doesn't have an alternative. For me, I grew up with Linux alongside Windows, went into a career that uses and targets Linux exclusively (backend SE) and for my computer based hobbies; gaming, coding, 3D printing/modelling they're served very well these days, and constantly improving.
- 4ggr0 11mo ago
  for me Bazzite is perfect, as my Home-PC really is 99% used for gaming. every couple of years i want to edit a video, guess i'll need to search for another software, or just install Davinci Resolve on the dualbooted Windows :D don't have as much Proton experience as you, but i also feel like it's gotten way better compared to 4-5 years ago when i first tried it. i'm always very mindful when suggesting people to use Linux, as like you i work with Linux daily, so of course i'm going to have less trouble using it compared to Joe Schmoe who exclusively uses Windows and never installed an OS himself. but for people who aren't afraid of tinkering a bit, sure. now at the point where i'm considering switching to AMD from NVIDIA, just because it seems way better for Linux.