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Reading the tea leaves, I think this incident may have more to do with politics than it being a real incident per se. For the past 10 years the Ruby community
by lgleason 11mo ago
Reading the tea leaves, I think this incident may have more to do with politics than it being a real incident per se.
For the past 10 years the Ruby community had been co-opted by political activists. Things like COC's and the Contributor Covenant etc. started in the Ruby community. The activists went after many top contributors in the community because of personal political beliefs etc, instead of behavior in the community itself. Some even called for ejecting DHH, the creator of rails, and Matz, the creator of the language, from the community.
When the Overton window finally stopped shifting to the left and started to move right, a lot of people who had remained quiet due to real threats of loss of business, work etc. finally started to speak up. DHH was one of them and has been very outspoken with his beliefs that open source software should be a-political and open to all instead of the political purity tests the activists were pushing.
From what I observed, when I was in involved in the Ruby community, Arko appeared to be a political activist. While there may have been an actual security concern here, my guess is that this had more to do with a desire to not have someone who may have been involved in trying to eject the top creators in the community being a point of failure for key infrastructure for the Ruby ecosystem.
- jjgreen 11mo agoCheerleading the fascist "Tommy Robinson" is not apolitical
- watwut 11mo agoDHH is political activist, hardcore radical one. Always was. It is completely absurd how radical right wing gets labeled "apolitical" in these takes.
- grim_io 11mo agowoah, got any references to back this up? I've seen a lot of DHH content, and I'd never describe it as radical right wing.
- noelwelsh 11mo agoHere's a right wing opinion: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
- grim_io 11mo agoI get it. But this just shows again clearly why people like Trump have any chance at all. I don't share many of his opinions, but nothing in there screams extremist right, sexist or xenophobic.
- cthalupa 11mo agoThe entire post is an anti-immigration screed. How is it not xenophobic? It's also littered with references to other far-right positions, like defending someone who was tweeting out incitements to violence against trans people - "If a trans-woman is in a female-only space, punch them in the balls"
- grumple 11mo agoI agree that his position is right wing, but is it far right? Most nations explicitly exist for the people native to the place. Very few nations allow foreign immigration on the scale that the US, UK, Canada, do. And European countries make it pretty difficult to migrate normally- unless you’re a Muslim “refugee”. Being anti-immigrant is a default position in the world. I think the average person on the left likes to believe they have the position that “all immigration is good”. In reality, they mean all migration by nonwhite people is good (see how they talk about white or near-white people in the US, Canada, Israel). It’s this hypocrisy and obviously racist stance that bugs me. What makes Muslim migration to Europe “good” but Jewish migration to the stateless land of Israel from 1890-1948 bad? What makes Muslims moving to the US “good” but makes all white people in the US colonizers? Either everybody gets the colonizer notation (foolish imo) or migration is a human right (like it was for the million years before the modern nation-state) and everybody needs to fucking deal with it, stop killing each other and stop condemning people for moving or for the past crimes of people who may be barely related. And if you’re going to migrate: don’t be an asshole to the people there first.
- noelwelsh 11mo agoPolitics is unavoidable when groups of people get together, as politics is defined as how groups make decisions [1]. Therefore, "open source software should be a-political and open to all" is by definition both impossible (you cannot have a group without politics) and a political statement (as it is suggesting a decision making process.) Furthermore, don't mistake a conservative position (e.g. everything should stay the same) for an apolitical one. [1]: For example: > politics: “who gets what, where, when, and how”—the process for resolving disputes and allocating scarce resources" https://openstax.org/books/introduction-political-science/pages/1-key-terms https://openstax.org/books/introduction-political-science/pa...
- skywhopper 11mo agoOpen source “should be open to all” is extremely political. DHH himself regularly posts rants making it clear he doesn’t agree with this. Railing against codes of conduct that are meant to making open source more welcoming to folks who have historically been excluded is itself a political statement that “not everyone is welcome”.
- phoronixrly 11mo agoWe're way beyond that. We're at a point where DHH rants publicly that people must not be allowed to live in London unless they're native Brits, where the definition of 'native Brits' (apart from being xenophobic by definition) looks to suspiciously exclude non-white people (thus levelling up to outright racist)... I am not sure how OP can spin this as being 'very outspoken with his beliefs that open source software should be a-political and open to all instead of the political purity tests the activists were pushing'...
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