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I appreciate the sentiment, but "There is no stupid code" is the dumbest sentence I've ever read.

rabbitlord 1y ago
Yeah, I think he’s trying to equate it to something like “there are no stupid questions.” That’s a pretty silly analogy, but you get the idea.
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xboxnolifes 1y ago
I think the people who think there is no stupid code don't actually ever witness truly bad code. The worst code that they come across is, at worst, below average. And since that's the worst they see, it gets mentally defined as bad.
- deadbabe 1y ago
  That’s a charitable interpretation. The other more pessimistic one is that they only see stupid code, which cannot be made any stupider.
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    I think that's basically an impossibility, unless the only code they look at is from people who have 5 minutes of coding experience and attempt to get working code from vibes (without the LLM). Even suggesting this makes me think you haven't even seen truly stupid code. I'm talking code from people with no programming experience, trying to contribute to open-source mod projects by pattern matching words they see in the file. They see the keyword static a lot, so they just put static on random things.
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PinkMilkshake 1y ago
Maybe you don't read much, but it's obvious they weren't making some universal statement about code. They are referring to the code you write when you are just experimenting by yourself, for yourself. The point is to not let irrelevant things like usefulness, quality, conventions, etc. limit just tinkering and learning.
Swizec 1y ago
Stupid code is fine. Make it work/exist first, you can make it good later.
Jensson 1y ago
He will counter with "There are no stupid sentences"!
pluto_modadic 1y ago
when you're paralyzed into not putting anything on the page, it's important to just get the dumb idea onto the IDE and refactor from there.

Yeah, I think he’s trying to equate it to something like “there are no stupid questions.” That’s a pretty silly analogy, but you get the idea.

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xboxnolifes 1y ago

I think the people who think there is no stupid code don't actually ever witness truly bad code. The worst code that they come across is, at worst, below average. And since that's the worst they see, it gets mentally defined as bad.

deadbabe 1y ago
That’s a charitable interpretation. The other more pessimistic one is that they only see stupid code, which cannot be made any stupider.
- xboxnolifes 1y ago
  I think that's basically an impossibility, unless the only code they look at is from people who have 5 minutes of coding experience and attempt to get working code from vibes (without the LLM). Even suggesting this makes me think you haven't even seen truly stupid code. I'm talking code from people with no programming experience, trying to contribute to open-source mod projects by pattern matching words they see in the file. They see the keyword static a lot, so they just put static on random things.
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PinkMilkshake 1y ago

Maybe you don't read much, but it's obvious they weren't making some universal statement about code. They are referring to the code you write when you are just experimenting by yourself, for yourself. The point is to not let irrelevant things like usefulness, quality, conventions, etc. limit just tinkering and learning.

Swizec 1y ago

Stupid code is fine. Make it work/exist first, you can make it good later.

Jensson 1y ago

He will counter with "There are no stupid sentences"!

pluto_modadic 1y ago

when you're paralyzed into not putting anything on the page, it's important to just get the dumb idea onto the IDE and refactor from there.