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What a load of crap. If companies paid that much then unemployment would be next to nil.
by dsolomon 14y ago
What a load of crap.
If companies paid that much then unemployment would be next to nil.
- purp 14y agoFor engineers in Silicon Valley, it very nearly is.
- noahc 14y agoI don't think unemployment is caused by out of work programmers. It's more the folks who have no or low skill jobs and those effected most by the recession such as construction workers. It's hard for me to imagine a construction worker being able to transition from the blue collar culture to the white collar culture that most of these jobs fall into. Again, It's not so much that construction workers are stupid, but if the ones that reroof my apartment are any indication, insulting each others mothers and swinging hammers at each other when one pisses the other one off are standard fair.
- portlander52232 14y agoActually, since the recession, unemployment increased by the same proportion in all sectors of the economy. That is, software engineering unemployment is about twice what it was before; construction unemployment is about twice what it was before; etc. etc. etc. This indicates that the problem is not structural (i.e. not due to people having the wrong skills), but due to a shortfall in demand: everybody tightened their spending at the same time. Sources can be dug up if desired.
- noahc 14y agohttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/business/unemployment-where-are-the-jobs/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/business/unempl... seems to suggest otherwise.
- jasonkester 14y agoI've noticed you make comments like this every time salaries are mentioned around here, with usually the same reception. You seem to honestly believe what you're saying, and you seem to be genuine when you say that you've observed lots of low salaries in your portion of the industry. http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dsolomon http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dsolomon But you'd benefit from knowing that it's not like that, pretty much anywhere else in the developed world. Real developers really are making six figure salaries writing code for a living, working 40 hour weeks, no tricks. More important to you, specifically: You could be making six figures as a software developer. You just need to step out of your niche and go find a job for a public sector company. Given your comment history, I doubt you'll believe me, or any of the others here replying to you, or the dozens of people who have replied to you over the years. But it's true. We look forward to seeing you out here some day.
- noahc 14y agoYou sucked me in! I didn't recognize the name, but I remember him as the "DC Guy With Clearance". I browsed his comments over the past year, and it's pretty clear to me that he either enjoys being underpaid and views it as a badge of honor or is so completely mistrusting of other people that he thinks that we are trying to screw him over when we (tens if not hundreds of people) suggest that he can easily get a higher paying job else where.
- dsolomon 14y agoSo what's the link to the needle in the haystack?
- strlen 14y agoI think you meant "for a private sector company". What dsolomon is saying sounds completely incredulous to me: I've yet to hear of a single company that requires employees to purchase their own hardware or software. This is true not just of the top tier SV companies, but of _all_ companies who are aware that building software is their core competency. That's simply the difference between software being a cost center vs. a profit center.
- mirsadm 14y agoNot sure about the bay area but $100k salaries are common in Australia. It isn't much money when you consider how expensive everything is.