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Why did they switch? Given the information provided, it seems that paying anything, if you're on a grandfathered free plan, is a bad deal.

jrochkind1 1y ago
There is no obligation to provide the "grandfathered" free plan forever, they could have taken that away too. Presumably they switched to get some features they wanted that weren't on their old plan. Slack can take away the old deal as easy as the new, staying on the old is no guarantee Slack will let you keep it forever.
- fdsfdsfdsaasd 1y ago
  Right - there is so much context missing. Extrapolating just a little, it looks like the story is something more like "We had too many users for our existing free plan, so we switched to a paid plan that had a first-year discount of 97%. We didn't really pay attention to the fine print, and now we've got a nasty letter demanding lots of money." Not defending Slack / Salesforce. You just can't deal with them with that level of naivety.
  - jrochkind1 1y ago
    i don't know if your surmises are correct. But my point is just that this seems irrelevant to Slack ending the deal. If they had stayed on the existing "grandfathered" plan, Slack could still be ending it. So I don't see the relevance. There's no reason to think they would be safer if they had stayed on a "grandfathered" plan that isn't even offered anymore, in fact it's often safer to switch to a currently offered plan if they're offering you a reasonable one, figuring they'll end the grandfathered one sooner than a currently offered one. That alone could be reason to switch in fact.
    - fdsfdsfdsaasd 1y ago
      Right. The sensible thing to do would have been to develop a migration strategy as soon as you hear words like "grandfathered" or "first-year discount".
aramsh 1y ago
Slack moved us off the free plan to the 5k plan, which is fair considering thousands of users; it costs money to host those servers.

jrochkind1 1y ago

There is no obligation to provide the "grandfathered" free plan forever, they could have taken that away too. Presumably they switched to get some features they wanted that weren't on their old plan. Slack can take away the old deal as easy as the new, staying on the old is no guarantee Slack will let you keep it forever.

fdsfdsfdsaasd 1y ago
Right - there is so much context missing. Extrapolating just a little, it looks like the story is something more like "We had too many users for our existing free plan, so we switched to a paid plan that had a first-year discount of 97%. We didn't really pay attention to the fine print, and now we've got a nasty letter demanding lots of money." Not defending Slack / Salesforce. You just can't deal with them with that level of naivety.
- jrochkind1 1y ago
  i don't know if your surmises are correct. But my point is just that this seems irrelevant to Slack ending the deal. If they had stayed on the existing "grandfathered" plan, Slack could still be ending it. So I don't see the relevance. There's no reason to think they would be safer if they had stayed on a "grandfathered" plan that isn't even offered anymore, in fact it's often safer to switch to a currently offered plan if they're offering you a reasonable one, figuring they'll end the grandfathered one sooner than a currently offered one. That alone could be reason to switch in fact.
  - fdsfdsfdsaasd 1y ago
    Right. The sensible thing to do would have been to develop a migration strategy as soon as you hear words like "grandfathered" or "first-year discount".

aramsh 1y ago

Slack moved us off the free plan to the 5k plan, which is fair considering thousands of users; it costs money to host those servers.