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The summary at the top of the page says > ABC said it was pulling the “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” show off the air “indefinitely” after controversial comments by its

The summary at the top of the page says > ABC said it was pulling the “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” show off the air “indefinitely” after controversial comments by its host about the slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. but the article says the following, which is entirely different: > “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. > > “In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving,” he added.

pogue 1y ago
The 2nd part is the quote from Jimmy Kimmel that he said on air that caused the "controversy", that resulted in the FCC commissioner, Brendan Carr to go on a podcast and threaten ABC/Disney with retaliatory action if they refused to take Kimmel off the air. CNN doesn't show a clip, but explains what was said & the events that caused this. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/business/video/abc-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-charlie-kirk-digvid https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/business/video/abc-jimmy-kimm... Never believe those who claim to be in favor of free speech, but then use threats of legal intervention against those who practice it.
- typeofhuman 1y ago
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  - FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago
    So right wing extremists?
    - typeofhuman 1y ago
      The irony of your comment on this of all posts is not lost on me.
- cebert 1y ago
  This isn’t a free-speech issue. Kimmel was free to say what he said, and I personally don’t find his comments egregiously offensive. However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks.
  - LeafItAlone 1y ago
    > However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks. Government officials also threatened to pull the government provided broadcasting licenses that the corporation has. That’s free speech related.
    - cebert 1y ago
      Ok. I missed that detail.
      - pogue 1y ago
        >During a Wednesday podcast appearance, FCC head Brendan Carr threatened to revoke the broadcasting licenses of any stations that continued to air Kimmel’s content. >“It’s time for them to step and say this garbage…isn’t something that we think serves the needs of our local communities,” he said. >Carr’s threat should have been toothless. The FCC is prohibited by law from employing “the power of censorship” or interfering “with the right of free speech.” There is a very narrow and rarely used exception for “news distortion,” in which a broadcast news outlet knowingly airs false reports. What Kimmel did — an offhand comment based on weak evidence — is extremely different from creating a news report with the intent to deceive. >Hours after Carr’s Wednesday threat, Nexstar — the largest owner of local stations in America — suddenly decided that Kimmel’s comments from two nights ago were unacceptable. Nexstar, it should be noted, is currently attempting to purchase one of its major rivals for $6.2 billion — a merger that would require express FCC approval. Source: https://www.vox.com/politics/461887/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-air-abc-charlie-kirk-nexstar https://www.vox.com/politics/461887/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-...
Natsu 1y ago
I guess he didn't see the info that the police released? https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/text-message-tyler-robinson-roomate-vis https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/text-message-tyler-robinso...
- gsf_emergency_2 1y ago
  Family is staunchly republican, tho the perp himself went indy in the last few elections. Being gay doesn't say anything, Thiel's gay bf killed himself for what seems like political issues too (& might have been Indy like perp-- or, say sama) https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/9/15/charlie-kirk-killing-what-we-know-about-suspect-tyler-robinsons-motives https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/9/15/charlie-kirk-ki...
  - mkfs 1y ago
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    - gsf_emergency_2 1y ago
      I didn't want to be more specific, only quoting a reputable source verbatim; but you forced my hand :) Family is even staunchly Mormon, AIUI https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/who-is-tyler-robinson/ https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/who-is-tyler-robinson/ Leave it as an exercise to construct the bayesian model for ex-Mormons are: homosexual, leftist, etc There's a reason Mormons are sought-after gov employees*, but if we can't talk about that, be consoled by the idea that being leftist is treasonous *A level religious, above uh Luigi's sub-ethnicity, famous for its loyalty, shall we say
    - DengistKhan 1y ago
      I haven't seen any by unhinged leftists, however I have seen countless normal people tired of hate, authoritarianism, racism, anti-women, anti-science, and anti-infrastructure, and narcissistic tendencies by their parents, who are often MAGA or QAnoners.
      - 1y ago
gruez 1y ago
> “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. Off topic, but has there been convincing evidence that the suspect is right wing/MAGA, as Kimmel implied? I've seen some posts on reddit to this effect, but they're far from convincing.
- throwmeaway222 1y ago
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  - DangitBobby 1y ago
    I'm not seeing much evidence of his political leaning (other than his choice of target, of course). Can you share some of this evidence?
    - ars 1y ago
      Only thing I've seen is that he was dating a trans M-T-F person, and that person was very cooperative with police. Although it makes you wonder about his gay comment engraved on the bullet. It's certainly not conclusive.
      - theossuary 1y ago
        Wtf is a trans mtf? Do you mean a trans woman?
        happytoexplain 1y ago
        Yes, "MTF" means "male to female".
        theossuary 1y ago
        If you mean trans woman, maybe just say trans woman? No need for weird acronyms
happytoexplain 1y ago
I think everybody is (reasonably) confused by the use of the words "anything other than". It's usually used in phrases that express the speaker's opinion to the opposite ("as if this is anything other than performative" means "this is performative"). Based on the clip, it sounds like Kimmel unfortunately used it literally: "trying to portray [him] as anything other than...", as in, "they're jumping the gun on his portrayal and blame placement", and not, "I know which team he's on." I could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like in context (and would make more sense too).
- BrandoElFollito 1y ago
  This by the way is an example of construction that confuses is non English natives. Another one is "he was all but dead" which can be understood as "he was really in a bad shape, almost dead", or "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say" There are a few more like these (especially in short titles, where I have to analyze word by word the sentence to make sure I got it right)
  - happytoexplain 1y ago
    Yeah, English is very confusing (or at least I get the impression that it is more confusing than other languages - it's the only one I speak). Even in your example, I think you misunderstand. "He was all but dead" is never used to mean "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say". That would be "he was anything but dead". However, there is a caveat, since even native speakers increasingly over the years speak English "wrongly". Of course, when they do it enough, it's no longer wrong. So maybe you did hear a native speaker use the phrase "he was all but dead" with the latter meaning, but I would put that usage in the "wrong" camp as of 2025.
    - BrandoElFollito 1y ago
      > Even in your example, I think you misunderstand. "He was all but dead" is never used to mean "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say". That would be "he was anything but dead". ah, sorry I was not clear - what I meant with the "or" is that there are 2 ways to understand this sentence, one of them being incorrect :)

pogue 1y ago

The 2nd part is the quote from Jimmy Kimmel that he said on air that caused the "controversy", that resulted in the FCC commissioner, Brendan Carr to go on a podcast and threaten ABC/Disney with retaliatory action if they refused to take Kimmel off the air. CNN doesn't show a clip, but explains what was said & the events that caused this. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/business/video/abc-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-charlie-kirk-digvid https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/business/video/abc-jimmy-kimm... Never believe those who claim to be in favor of free speech, but then use threats of legal intervention against those who practice it.

typeofhuman 1y ago
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- FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago
  So right wing extremists?
  - typeofhuman 1y ago
    The irony of your comment on this of all posts is not lost on me.
cebert 1y ago
This isn’t a free-speech issue. Kimmel was free to say what he said, and I personally don’t find his comments egregiously offensive. However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks.
- LeafItAlone 1y ago
  > However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks. Government officials also threatened to pull the government provided broadcasting licenses that the corporation has. That’s free speech related.
  - cebert 1y ago
    Ok. I missed that detail.
    - pogue 1y ago
      >During a Wednesday podcast appearance, FCC head Brendan Carr threatened to revoke the broadcasting licenses of any stations that continued to air Kimmel’s content. >“It’s time for them to step and say this garbage…isn’t something that we think serves the needs of our local communities,” he said. >Carr’s threat should have been toothless. The FCC is prohibited by law from employing “the power of censorship” or interfering “with the right of free speech.” There is a very narrow and rarely used exception for “news distortion,” in which a broadcast news outlet knowingly airs false reports. What Kimmel did — an offhand comment based on weak evidence — is extremely different from creating a news report with the intent to deceive. >Hours after Carr’s Wednesday threat, Nexstar — the largest owner of local stations in America — suddenly decided that Kimmel’s comments from two nights ago were unacceptable. Nexstar, it should be noted, is currently attempting to purchase one of its major rivals for $6.2 billion — a merger that would require express FCC approval. Source: https://www.vox.com/politics/461887/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-air-abc-charlie-kirk-nexstar https://www.vox.com/politics/461887/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-...

Natsu 1y ago

I guess he didn't see the info that the police released? https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/text-message-tyler-robinson-roomate-vis https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/text-message-tyler-robinso...

gsf_emergency_2 1y ago
Family is staunchly republican, tho the perp himself went indy in the last few elections. Being gay doesn't say anything, Thiel's gay bf killed himself for what seems like political issues too (& might have been Indy like perp-- or, say sama) https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/9/15/charlie-kirk-killing-what-we-know-about-suspect-tyler-robinsons-motives https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/9/15/charlie-kirk-ki...
- mkfs 1y ago
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  - gsf_emergency_2 1y ago
    I didn't want to be more specific, only quoting a reputable source verbatim; but you forced my hand :) Family is even staunchly Mormon, AIUI https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/who-is-tyler-robinson/ https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/who-is-tyler-robinson/ Leave it as an exercise to construct the bayesian model for ex-Mormons are: homosexual, leftist, etc There's a reason Mormons are sought-after gov employees*, but if we can't talk about that, be consoled by the idea that being leftist is treasonous *A level religious, above uh Luigi's sub-ethnicity, famous for its loyalty, shall we say
  - DengistKhan 1y ago
    I haven't seen any by unhinged leftists, however I have seen countless normal people tired of hate, authoritarianism, racism, anti-women, anti-science, and anti-infrastructure, and narcissistic tendencies by their parents, who are often MAGA or QAnoners.
    - 1y ago

gruez 1y ago

> “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. Off topic, but has there been convincing evidence that the suspect is right wing/MAGA, as Kimmel implied? I've seen some posts on reddit to this effect, but they're far from convincing.

throwmeaway222 1y ago
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- DangitBobby 1y ago
  I'm not seeing much evidence of his political leaning (other than his choice of target, of course). Can you share some of this evidence?
  - ars 1y ago
    Only thing I've seen is that he was dating a trans M-T-F person, and that person was very cooperative with police. Although it makes you wonder about his gay comment engraved on the bullet. It's certainly not conclusive.
    - theossuary 1y ago
      Wtf is a trans mtf? Do you mean a trans woman?
      - happytoexplain 1y ago
        Yes, "MTF" means "male to female".
        theossuary 1y ago
        If you mean trans woman, maybe just say trans woman? No need for weird acronyms

happytoexplain 1y ago

I think everybody is (reasonably) confused by the use of the words "anything other than". It's usually used in phrases that express the speaker's opinion to the opposite ("as if this is anything other than performative" means "this is performative"). Based on the clip, it sounds like Kimmel unfortunately used it literally: "trying to portray [him] as anything other than...", as in, "they're jumping the gun on his portrayal and blame placement", and not, "I know which team he's on." I could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like in context (and would make more sense too).

BrandoElFollito 1y ago
This by the way is an example of construction that confuses is non English natives. Another one is "he was all but dead" which can be understood as "he was really in a bad shape, almost dead", or "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say" There are a few more like these (especially in short titles, where I have to analyze word by word the sentence to make sure I got it right)
- happytoexplain 1y ago
  Yeah, English is very confusing (or at least I get the impression that it is more confusing than other languages - it's the only one I speak). Even in your example, I think you misunderstand. "He was all but dead" is never used to mean "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say". That would be "he was anything but dead". However, there is a caveat, since even native speakers increasingly over the years speak English "wrongly". Of course, when they do it enough, it's no longer wrong. So maybe you did hear a native speaker use the phrase "he was all but dead" with the latter meaning, but I would put that usage in the "wrong" camp as of 2025.
  - BrandoElFollito 1y ago
    > Even in your example, I think you misunderstand. "He was all but dead" is never used to mean "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say". That would be "he was anything but dead". ah, sorry I was not clear - what I meant with the "or" is that there are 2 ways to understand this sentence, one of them being incorrect :)