Read my posts again, I'm not complaining it's not for the masses, I know it isn't. I'm complaining that it's being forced upon people when there are simpler alt

Read my posts again, I'm not complaining it's not for the masses, I know it isn't. I'm complaining that it's being forced upon people when there are simpler alternatives that help people focus on business problems rather than setting up virtual environments. So I'm very much advocating for people to "[u]se whatever tools work best". (That is - now I'm doing this. In the past I taught a course on pandas data analytics and spoke at a few PyData conferences and meetups, partly about dataframes and how useful they are. So I'm very much guilty of what all of the above.)