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No one is forcing parents to vaccinate your kids. It's just that in sane societies we say you can't use a public school if you're not vaccinated and otherwise h
by zippothrowaway 1y ago
No one is forcing parents to vaccinate your kids. It's just that in sane societies we say you can't use a public school if you're not vaccinated and otherwise healthy.
A moment's thought will tell you that it's to protect kids that are at risk from infectious diseases (e.g. immunocompromised cancer patients) that cannot be vaccinated.
So most people would agree that it's unfair that a cancer patient cannot attend a public school, through no fault of their own, because a parent wants their healthy kid to attend the school unvaccinated. We balance the rules accordingly.
- SilverElfin 1y ago> No one is forcing parents to vaccinate your kids. Yes, they are. If your kids are not allowed to attend school, then you are being forced to vaccinate them because you may not have other options. Claiming otherwise is gaslighting. > It's just that in sane societies we say you can't use a public school if you're not vaccinated and otherwise healthy. So do those parents get a voucher for the funds pertaining to their child’s public education, if they’re prevented?
- ViewTrick1002 1y agoAre children the parents’ property or an individual we as a society should work to guarantee the best outcome? Should parents be allowed to kill their property?
- SilverElfin 1y ago[flagged]
- anigbrowl 1y agoNo they are not. If you abuse them you can be put in prison and unlike property you can't sell them or use them as collateral. Propertarian ideology is delusional.
- SilverElfin 1y agoI used the word “property” in quotes because I am just repeating the word the earlier comment used. I’m not suggesting you can sell people. You’re attacking a strawman. Regardless - my point stands that children belong first to the parents. Using words like “abuse”, which aren’t applicable to this situation at hand, is just a way to appeal to emotion rather than acknowledging that states taking over parental judgment is explicitly authoritarian.
- Tadpole9181 1y agoNot giving your child medical care is abuse.
- SilverElfin 1y agoIt is for parents to judge what medical care is appropriate. You’re making it seem like everyone must consent to injecting whatever the government tells them, which is dystopian.
- Tadpole9181 1y agoNo, children are not dolls for parents to neglect as much as they want with no legitimate justification. Are they allowed to withhold food too? Keep them from getting school? Marry 12 year olds off? Oh, woops, the GOP do support that last one.
- SilverElfin 1y agoIf they want to homeschool, yes that is their fundamental right. Not everyone has to share the same culture or knowledge or way of life. As for food - do you think all Arab households should behave their children taken away when they withhold food for religious fasting?
- Tadpole9181 1y ago
- fragmede 1y agoOf course, we just don't agree on when it is acceptable. Between the ages of -.75 and -.50, it's generally legal to. Shifting the Overton window to make it legal for ages up to, say, 15, would be one for an ultra-left wing party to throw out there, just to disrupt the national conversation.
- zippothrowaway 1y ago1) you ignored my main point about children who cannot be vaccinated. Way to go. 2) with regard to gaslighting, should parents be allowed to send their kids to public schools naked? What's the difference in compulsion?