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fires anyone who disagrees or does not fall in line. absolute tyrany

itake 1y ago
I'm probably going to be down voted... but if an organization (business or government) is full of people that refuse to sing the same song, how can such an organization accomplish anything? In politics, we saw what happens when the republicans can't agree with each other and failed to elect a majority leader. We also designate 1 person to control a significant part of our government, not a committee people with opposite view points. Inconsistent messaging from leadership creates distrust amount the workers/population and prevents people from accomplishing anything.
- aaomidi 1y ago
  By engaging positively and understanding rather than creating a cult.
  - itake 1y ago
    What successful organization isn't cult-like, where everyone sings the same song?
    - braebo 1y ago
      Democracy (pre fascist coup).
      - itake 1y ago
        Biden fired Gerald B. Wright for loyalty to Trump. Biden also fired Rodney Scott for disagreement on immigration strategy. Obama fired General Stanley McChrystal for critical comments about Obama. What year did it suddenly not become ok to fire people that disagree with you?
    - JohnFen 1y ago
      Most of them. No organization can function well if people don't push back when they see it going off the rails. Dissent is an important part of good collaborative decision-making. Demanding that everyone "sing the same song" or get out eliminates the ability to adapt, improve, and correct.
    - IAmBroom 1y ago
      How did you come to this weird world-view? People argue, politely, in every meeting I attend at work, in my hobbies, and while gathering at social functions.
      - itake 1y ago
        In the tech world: - Musk, Zuckerberg, Trump, Bezos, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Travis Kalanick, In politics: - Trump, Xi, Putin, Biden [0], Obama [1]. When the republican party couldn't elect a chair, they were seen as dysfunctional. If you can't sing together, the purpose fails: - Quibi: founders disagreed. company failed. - The Beatles (Lennon vs. McCartney) - Soviet Union: Central Communist Party wanted to preserve the union, but republics (Baltic states, Ukraine, Georgia, etc.) demanded independence. - Yugoslavia: Deep ethnic, religious, and national divides (Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Slovenes, etc.), each with different visions of the future. [0] - Biden fired Gerald B. Wright for loyalty to Trump. Rodney Scott disagreed with Biden's immigration strategy and was also fired. [1] - General Stanley McChrystal was fired for critical comments about Obama.
- rossjudson 1y ago
  It really depends on the song, doesn't it?
- magicalist 1y ago
  > I'm probably going to be down voted... but if an organization (business or government) is full of people that refuse to sing the same song, how can such an organization accomplish anything? If the purpose of the organization is based in science, what does it matter if you accomplish anything if you've fired all the scientists and all you have left are the politicians and spokespeople? And if the acts of Congress that created your organization mandate that science be conducted, is it maybe time to do some soul searching about why no one wants to sing your terrible song?
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  > I'm probably going to be down voted... but if an organization (business or government) is full of people that refuse to sing the same song, how can such an organization accomplish anything? How can an organization learn, recognize new facts, adapt to change, and synthesize knowledge if everyone is constrained to singing one song?
- refurb 1y ago
  Yup, you were downvoted to hell But yes. Getting hired and directly opposing the direction your boss wants to take isn’t a recipe for a long career.
  - Tadpole9181 1y ago
    I'm coming to realize a significant number of people on this site would commit heinous ethical violations if their boss asked them to. This is just another data point in support of that.
    - IAmBroom 1y ago
      I agree with you that a significant number of people on this site are humans.

I'm probably going to be down voted... but if an organization (business or government) is full of people that refuse to sing the same song, how can such an organization accomplish anything? In politics, we saw what happens when the republicans can't agree with each other and failed to elect a majority leader. We also designate 1 person to control a significant part of our government, not a committee people with opposite view points. Inconsistent messaging from leadership creates distrust amount the workers/population and prevents people from accomplishing anything.

aaomidi 1y ago
By engaging positively and understanding rather than creating a cult.
- itake 1y ago
  What successful organization isn't cult-like, where everyone sings the same song?
  - braebo 1y ago
    Democracy (pre fascist coup).
    - itake 1y ago
      Biden fired Gerald B. Wright for loyalty to Trump. Biden also fired Rodney Scott for disagreement on immigration strategy. Obama fired General Stanley McChrystal for critical comments about Obama. What year did it suddenly not become ok to fire people that disagree with you?
  - JohnFen 1y ago
    Most of them. No organization can function well if people don't push back when they see it going off the rails. Dissent is an important part of good collaborative decision-making. Demanding that everyone "sing the same song" or get out eliminates the ability to adapt, improve, and correct.
  - IAmBroom 1y ago
    How did you come to this weird world-view? People argue, politely, in every meeting I attend at work, in my hobbies, and while gathering at social functions.
    - itake 1y ago
      In the tech world: - Musk, Zuckerberg, Trump, Bezos, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Travis Kalanick, In politics: - Trump, Xi, Putin, Biden [0], Obama [1]. When the republican party couldn't elect a chair, they were seen as dysfunctional. If you can't sing together, the purpose fails: - Quibi: founders disagreed. company failed. - The Beatles (Lennon vs. McCartney) - Soviet Union: Central Communist Party wanted to preserve the union, but republics (Baltic states, Ukraine, Georgia, etc.) demanded independence. - Yugoslavia: Deep ethnic, religious, and national divides (Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Slovenes, etc.), each with different visions of the future. [0] - Biden fired Gerald B. Wright for loyalty to Trump. Rodney Scott disagreed with Biden's immigration strategy and was also fired. [1] - General Stanley McChrystal was fired for critical comments about Obama.
rossjudson 1y ago
It really depends on the song, doesn't it?
magicalist 1y ago
> I'm probably going to be down voted... but if an organization (business or government) is full of people that refuse to sing the same song, how can such an organization accomplish anything? If the purpose of the organization is based in science, what does it matter if you accomplish anything if you've fired all the scientists and all you have left are the politicians and spokespeople? And if the acts of Congress that created your organization mandate that science be conducted, is it maybe time to do some soul searching about why no one wants to sing your terrible song?
dragonwriter 1y ago
> I'm probably going to be down voted... but if an organization (business or government) is full of people that refuse to sing the same song, how can such an organization accomplish anything? How can an organization learn, recognize new facts, adapt to change, and synthesize knowledge if everyone is constrained to singing one song?
refurb 1y ago
Yup, you were downvoted to hell But yes. Getting hired and directly opposing the direction your boss wants to take isn’t a recipe for a long career.
- Tadpole9181 1y ago
  I'm coming to realize a significant number of people on this site would commit heinous ethical violations if their boss asked them to. This is just another data point in support of that.
  - IAmBroom 1y ago
    I agree with you that a significant number of people on this site are humans.