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It was a difficult thing that was made more difficult by one of our investors who was just an absolute bastard, nobody should ever take money from them. An

It was a difficult thing that was made more difficult by one of our investors who was just an absolute bastard, nobody should ever take money from them. Anybody know whom he's referring to? Pretty harsh.

marcamillion 14y ago
Would love to know too.
confluence 14y ago
From Crunchbase here are my likely sources of bad investor groups (I've excluded individuals and Google): > Compass Technology Partners 4 investments - from the start (probably not). Valor Equity Partners 3 investments - from the start (probably not). > JP Morgan 2 - maybe (unlikely) Technology Venture Partners US 1 - (unlikely) > Capricorn Management 2 - maybe (probably not) VantagePoint Capital Partners 2 - maybe Draper Fisher Jurvetson 2 - maybe Now it seems that Musk didn't expect the investor to act like a douche. So I doubt it's JPMorgan (who are have been historically known to be douches). It was probably one of the VC funds trying to squeeze Musk on TSLA during the GFC - a firm with whom he has dealt with before. I doubt that it was US tech ventures - since they don't have much weight. It was probably one of the VC firms. I doubt it was the Europeans (once again not much weight). So it's either DFJ or Vantage. I remember Sameer Bhatia (of hotmail fame) stating that DFJ loves a good squeeze (they tried to screw him by telling other VCs to back off) - so I wouldn't put it past them. Vantage point has been known to manipulate deals and are probably the most likely along with DFJ. This is all speculation - someone else help me narrow it down? Tesla Investors: http://www.crunchbase.com/company/tesla-motors http://www.crunchbase.com/company/tesla-motors DFJ: http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/Draper+Fisher+Jurvetson http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/Draper+Fisher+Jurvetson Vantage Point: http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/VantagePoint+Venture+Partners http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/VantagePoint+Venture+Par...
- wololo 14y ago
  am i missing something, or does crunchbase have the investors wrong? ie, that it was Technology Partners (http://technologypartners.com/cleantech.html http://technologypartners.com/cleantech.html), and not Technology Venture Partners US (http://tvp.com/Investments.aspx http://tvp.com/Investments.aspx has no mention of Tesla), who made the investment (not to be confused with Compass Technology Partners who also invested). oi, names... http://gigaom.com/cleantech/who-wins-in-the-tesla-ipo/ http://gigaom.com/cleantech/who-wins-in-the-tesla-ipo/

marcamillion 14y ago

Would love to know too.

confluence 14y ago

From Crunchbase here are my likely sources of bad investor groups (I've excluded individuals and Google): > Compass Technology Partners 4 investments - from the start (probably not). Valor Equity Partners 3 investments - from the start (probably not). > JP Morgan 2 - maybe (unlikely) Technology Venture Partners US 1 - (unlikely) > Capricorn Management 2 - maybe (probably not) VantagePoint Capital Partners 2 - maybe Draper Fisher Jurvetson 2 - maybe Now it seems that Musk didn't expect the investor to act like a douche. So I doubt it's JPMorgan (who are have been historically known to be douches). It was probably one of the VC funds trying to squeeze Musk on TSLA during the GFC - a firm with whom he has dealt with before. I doubt that it was US tech ventures - since they don't have much weight. It was probably one of the VC firms. I doubt it was the Europeans (once again not much weight). So it's either DFJ or Vantage. I remember Sameer Bhatia (of hotmail fame) stating that DFJ loves a good squeeze (they tried to screw him by telling other VCs to back off) - so I wouldn't put it past them. Vantage point has been known to manipulate deals and are probably the most likely along with DFJ. This is all speculation - someone else help me narrow it down? Tesla Investors: http://www.crunchbase.com/company/tesla-motors http://www.crunchbase.com/company/tesla-motors DFJ: http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/Draper+Fisher+Jurvetson http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/Draper+Fisher+Jurvetson Vantage Point: http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/VantagePoint+Venture+Partners http://www.thefunded.com/funds/show/VantagePoint+Venture+Par...

wololo 14y ago
am i missing something, or does crunchbase have the investors wrong? ie, that it was Technology Partners (http://technologypartners.com/cleantech.html http://technologypartners.com/cleantech.html), and not Technology Venture Partners US (http://tvp.com/Investments.aspx http://tvp.com/Investments.aspx has no mention of Tesla), who made the investment (not to be confused with Compass Technology Partners who also invested). oi, names... http://gigaom.com/cleantech/who-wins-in-the-tesla-ipo/ http://gigaom.com/cleantech/who-wins-in-the-tesla-ipo/