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Can someone, more informed than me, about the job landscape, name these jobs people keep claiming AI is creating? Thank you in advance.

throwawayoldie 1y ago
_tumbleweeds roll past_
gonzo41 1y ago
Seriously, carpenters and plumbers and maybe more electricians. All those copy writers, graphic designers and junior coders are going to have to do something else. I'm joking, but not. I think a lot of fat is going to get trimmed of the bone of most industries. That may include myself which is a worry.
- dragontamer 1y ago
  That's not job creation. That's job destruction. With this much shoddy code out there, I'm expecting a LOT more testers are going to be needed. This is job creation but not the good kind. Think Tesla Optimus robot grabbing popcorn. Instead of one cashier filling bags of popcorn, you now have a dedicated teleoperator + sweeper to pickup all the popcorn that's spilled. One job turned into two jobs.
  - gonzo41 1y ago
    In the macro sense, jobs are jobs, we're just going to see labor move to different places. And AI will hit a limit for usefulness. We're still early in this adventure. guard rails are coming, but we're going to see some big crashes yet.
5350-uiop-1130 1y ago
uber eats delivery drivers
guywithahat 1y ago
It's just basic economics; when something makes the economy more efficient, it doesn't destroy jobs forever, people get new, better jobs in a more efficient economy. Perhaps AI will finally raise the bar so high lower-IQ individuals won't be able to find any meaningful employment, but this has never happened in before and I doubt it'll happen again. I don't think I've seen a respected economist go on a news broadcast and say AI will lead to mass unemployment.
- kelipso 1y ago
  Yeah, lower IQ people can use AI too...it might even close the gap to the high IQ people depending on their talents, what they learn, what they apply it to, and so on.
  - DiabloD3 1y ago
    So you're saying that members of Congress can finally catch up to the rest of America with technological help? Although that might be true, they're scared of computers. They only recently mastered the fax machine, but can't figure out how to stop the blinking time on their microwave. Baby steps, I guess.
  - tcfhgj 1y ago
    who would pay lower IQ people when AI can do it itself - 24/7?
- lm28469 1y ago
  > It's just basic economics Is it ? > when something makes the economy more efficient How does "ai" make "the economy" more efficient exactly ? > people get new, better jobs Which law dictate that these jobs are better ? I don't see people getting better jobs personally, I see a shit load of people pushed into more and more precarious jobs, with less and less workers rights and job security, with stagnating wages despite rise in productivity, &c.
  - guywithahat 1y ago
    > It's just basic economics Yes, if you look up any video of an economist talking about AI, they'll bring up the industrial revolution and point out how people thought it would bring the end of employment and instead created more and better jobs. The generally accepted viewpoint is AI will make things more efficient, and thus people will be freed to do other, more important work.
storus 1y ago
Anything that contains drudgery that nobody wants to do. AI is automating away all the cool creative jobs, leaving only the garbage ones. Once robotics is up there, those garbage jobs will be gone as well. Then the humanity implodes within 2 generations.
- throwawayoldie 1y ago
  I wouldn't worry about it. Within two generations, the remaining humans will be mainly concerned with surviving in a wrecked ecosystem as best they can.
kingstnap 1y ago
There are a profound number of people who now seem to just spend all day giving interviews and yapping about their AI takes. Geoffrey Hinton seems to be in the headlines constantly going "godfather of AI" and giving some random obtuse warning or call for action. Eric Schmidt also spends a lot of time yapping. And of course people like Gary Marcus. Simon Willison also does a lot of writing but at least his blog is actually useful information of actual tests and news.
- xnx 1y ago
  Agree. Being enough for these people isn't enough, they also think we should care what they have to say. I would not include simonw with the other 3 at all. His opinions are informed by use instead of just other thoughts. Simon also releases a lot of utility tools.
- Lu2025 1y ago
  These are sales speeches. They are over hyping it. AI has its niche but they are trying to plug it everywhere. Maybe they have a point. Maybe hooking people up on software tools so they are incompetent without will pay off.
  - noichnoich 1y ago
    [dead]
- nerfellicat 1y ago
  Hinton talks are hilarious. He goes from explaining perceptrons to huge claims like "this is what understanding is", "that's how our brain works", "linguists are cranks if they don't agree", and "this proves there is no god" but the last one as some weird little anecdote involving some religious migrant worker, and implies heavily that disagreeing with him is equivalent with having religious beliefs. It's pretty wild.
ninininino 1y ago
Probably if the capital owners who have automated away the need for intellectual labor want to take advantage of their increased income and the increasingly cheap/desperate labor, they might hire back some of the fired white-collar AI-replaced folks to give them Roman villa treatment (hand-feeding grapes, performing plays and theater at their homes, ever more elaborate massage/grooming/pampering or the more illicit variety).
semiinfinitely 1y ago
AI researcher
bombcar 1y ago
The big new job is "AI slop shit sorter" but we'll find inventive names for it.
- Rumudiez 1y ago
  Macrodata refinement
LightBug1 1y ago
AI Fact Verification and Replication Teams. One team to re-do the work to double check the right answer. The second team to reconcile the right answer with the AI result. I'm not even joking ... I've professionally been extremely embarrassed once by an AI result. Now I check it so often that I might as well just do the work I asked it to do. No doubt, quick questions and rough ideas, LLM is the bomb. Professionally? Nah. Not yet.
jayd16 1y ago
In general, the idea with technology is it's cheaper to do things. It's easier to start the next widget company because building widgets with the technology is cheaper. It's easier to consume other things because goods are cheaper to make with the tech. A third option is that the tech enables something all together new, eg television, that starts a new industry. As far as direct job creation, the third way is the most obvious but probably not the case at the moment. So I guess we're stuck waiting for goods and services made with AI to get cheaper.
esarbe 1y ago
My guess? Basically even more bullshit jobs in advertising.
pacman1337 1y ago
programmer with zero experience

throwawayoldie 1y ago

_tumbleweeds roll past_

gonzo41 1y ago

Seriously, carpenters and plumbers and maybe more electricians. All those copy writers, graphic designers and junior coders are going to have to do something else. I'm joking, but not. I think a lot of fat is going to get trimmed of the bone of most industries. That may include myself which is a worry.

dragontamer 1y ago
That's not job creation. That's job destruction. With this much shoddy code out there, I'm expecting a LOT more testers are going to be needed. This is job creation but not the good kind. Think Tesla Optimus robot grabbing popcorn. Instead of one cashier filling bags of popcorn, you now have a dedicated teleoperator + sweeper to pickup all the popcorn that's spilled. One job turned into two jobs.
- gonzo41 1y ago
  In the macro sense, jobs are jobs, we're just going to see labor move to different places. And AI will hit a limit for usefulness. We're still early in this adventure. guard rails are coming, but we're going to see some big crashes yet.

5350-uiop-1130 1y ago

uber eats delivery drivers

guywithahat 1y ago

It's just basic economics; when something makes the economy more efficient, it doesn't destroy jobs forever, people get new, better jobs in a more efficient economy. Perhaps AI will finally raise the bar so high lower-IQ individuals won't be able to find any meaningful employment, but this has never happened in before and I doubt it'll happen again. I don't think I've seen a respected economist go on a news broadcast and say AI will lead to mass unemployment.

kelipso 1y ago
Yeah, lower IQ people can use AI too...it might even close the gap to the high IQ people depending on their talents, what they learn, what they apply it to, and so on.
- DiabloD3 1y ago
  So you're saying that members of Congress can finally catch up to the rest of America with technological help? Although that might be true, they're scared of computers. They only recently mastered the fax machine, but can't figure out how to stop the blinking time on their microwave. Baby steps, I guess.
- tcfhgj 1y ago
  who would pay lower IQ people when AI can do it itself - 24/7?
lm28469 1y ago
> It's just basic economics Is it ? > when something makes the economy more efficient How does "ai" make "the economy" more efficient exactly ? > people get new, better jobs Which law dictate that these jobs are better ? I don't see people getting better jobs personally, I see a shit load of people pushed into more and more precarious jobs, with less and less workers rights and job security, with stagnating wages despite rise in productivity, &c.
- guywithahat 1y ago
  > It's just basic economics Yes, if you look up any video of an economist talking about AI, they'll bring up the industrial revolution and point out how people thought it would bring the end of employment and instead created more and better jobs. The generally accepted viewpoint is AI will make things more efficient, and thus people will be freed to do other, more important work.

storus 1y ago

Anything that contains drudgery that nobody wants to do. AI is automating away all the cool creative jobs, leaving only the garbage ones. Once robotics is up there, those garbage jobs will be gone as well. Then the humanity implodes within 2 generations.

throwawayoldie 1y ago
I wouldn't worry about it. Within two generations, the remaining humans will be mainly concerned with surviving in a wrecked ecosystem as best they can.

kingstnap 1y ago

There are a profound number of people who now seem to just spend all day giving interviews and yapping about their AI takes. Geoffrey Hinton seems to be in the headlines constantly going "godfather of AI" and giving some random obtuse warning or call for action. Eric Schmidt also spends a lot of time yapping. And of course people like Gary Marcus. Simon Willison also does a lot of writing but at least his blog is actually useful information of actual tests and news.

xnx 1y ago
Agree. Being enough for these people isn't enough, they also think we should care what they have to say. I would not include simonw with the other 3 at all. His opinions are informed by use instead of just other thoughts. Simon also releases a lot of utility tools.
Lu2025 1y ago
These are sales speeches. They are over hyping it. AI has its niche but they are trying to plug it everywhere. Maybe they have a point. Maybe hooking people up on software tools so they are incompetent without will pay off.
- noichnoich 1y ago
  [dead]
nerfellicat 1y ago
Hinton talks are hilarious. He goes from explaining perceptrons to huge claims like "this is what understanding is", "that's how our brain works", "linguists are cranks if they don't agree", and "this proves there is no god" but the last one as some weird little anecdote involving some religious migrant worker, and implies heavily that disagreeing with him is equivalent with having religious beliefs. It's pretty wild.

ninininino 1y ago

Probably if the capital owners who have automated away the need for intellectual labor want to take advantage of their increased income and the increasingly cheap/desperate labor, they might hire back some of the fired white-collar AI-replaced folks to give them Roman villa treatment (hand-feeding grapes, performing plays and theater at their homes, ever more elaborate massage/grooming/pampering or the more illicit variety).

semiinfinitely 1y ago

AI researcher

bombcar 1y ago

The big new job is "AI slop shit sorter" but we'll find inventive names for it.

Rumudiez 1y ago
Macrodata refinement

LightBug1 1y ago

AI Fact Verification and Replication Teams. One team to re-do the work to double check the right answer. The second team to reconcile the right answer with the AI result. I'm not even joking ... I've professionally been extremely embarrassed once by an AI result. Now I check it so often that I might as well just do the work I asked it to do. No doubt, quick questions and rough ideas, LLM is the bomb. Professionally? Nah. Not yet.

jayd16 1y ago

In general, the idea with technology is it's cheaper to do things. It's easier to start the next widget company because building widgets with the technology is cheaper. It's easier to consume other things because goods are cheaper to make with the tech. A third option is that the tech enables something all together new, eg television, that starts a new industry. As far as direct job creation, the third way is the most obvious but probably not the case at the moment. So I guess we're stuck waiting for goods and services made with AI to get cheaper.

esarbe 1y ago

My guess? Basically even more bullshit jobs in advertising.

pacman1337 1y ago

programmer with zero experience