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Assuming the entirety of history began on October 7th, 2023, this is true.
by wds 1y ago
Assuming the entirety of history began on October 7th, 2023, this is true.
- hersko 1y agoGo back further and it is more of the same. They fight and lose. Rinse and repeat.
- wds 1y agoYes, I am aware of the Nakba, and how Palestinians fight to keep their land and lose.
- anonfordays 1y agoHas there ever been another group of people that have lost so many existential wars in a row but still demand they keep their land?
- neonnoodle 1y agothe First Nations of North America
- exe34 1y agoDo they keep bombing Washington?
- aspenmayer 1y agoThey managed to hold onto Alcatraz for longer than anyone expected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Alcatraz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Alcatraz
- lern_too_spel 1y agoHow do you define this group of people? Most Palestinians have more of the blood of Abraham than the European Jews who displaced them. The idea that the Jews fled Palestine after the Romans conquered it is a myth that can be verified by genetic testing. Many stayed and Hellenized and then converted to Christianity and then converted to Islam. Now these people won't do the rational thing and "convert" back to Judaism to continue to stay in that land because of Pascal's wager and lack of education to see through it. For that, they have their land taken, are excluded from participating in the democracy that governs the country they live in, are starved, and are dehumanized.
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- lern_too_spel 1y agohttps://blogs.timesofisrael.com/dammi-israeli-the-genetic-origins-of-the-palestinians/ https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/dammi-israeli-the-genetic-or... "On balance it is fair to state that Palestinians are in fact ethnically Israelite. The divide between the Israelis and Palestinians is on religious and linguistic lines only."
- immibis 1y agoMeanwhile, the current Israelis are mostly descended from Europeans (e.g. Germany, fleeing the Holocaust) and not from Israelites.
- Workaccount2 1y agoFor most of the kids falling over themselves in this conflict, history between the two nations began October 8th 2023. For the adults that run the world and been around 50+ years watching this shit, they just want it to be over, and don't really care who wins. At this point Palestine has no cards left and no friends helping them. They have lost, and the adults want them to go away without human-shielding themselves to dust.
- lern_too_spel 1y agoGo away where?
- Workaccount2 1y agoIran. Israel would happily pay for first class cruises and flights for everyone.
- lern_too_spel 1y agoIran would not accept millions of refugees following a different religion (Sunni) from the dominant one (Shia) in its theocracy. Palestinians would not accept transport as payment for stolen property.
- Workaccount2 1y agoMaybe they should have thought about that before being their #1 sponsor. But really any of their friends in the neighborhood should be willing to take them in.
- lern_too_spel 1y agoThey're not the ones who took their property. Why should they have to pay to compensate them? Also, friend doesn't seem like the appropriate word to use here. Were Americans friends of the Contras?
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- tiahura 1y agoI was referring to the 47 War, 48 War, 67 War, 1987–1993 First Intifada, 2000–2005 Second Intifada, …
- quickthrowman 1y agoHistory is a funny thing, now that you mention it. Should we start in 1948, when all of Israel’s neighbors invaded simultaneously? Or one of the other times Israel was invaded by their neighbors? Should we go back further and blame the Ottoman Empire for collapsing and causing a power vacuum in the region?
- wds 1y agoLet's go back one further to 1947 where there was no Israel, and it was all Palestine.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> where there was no Israel, and it was all Palestine A British colony. Taken from the Ottomans.
- quickthrowman 1y agoDo you mean the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine, administered by the British between 1920-1948 after the Ottoman Empire collapsed? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
- cholantesh 1y agoThey mean the name that has been used for the region for much of human history.
- quickthrowman 1y agoHow is that relevant? Yes, the name Palestine is derived from the Philistines who used to inhabit the area 3500 years ago. The region has been urbanized for 7-9k years and inhabited by many different groups. Jews, Greeks, Romans, Muslims, and I’m sure there’s more. It has an exceedingly complex history.
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