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Isn't the Mac way a good thing though? For example everything on Windows is moving to web apps where I feel they can load just as many trackers onto you eg http

by gargan 1y ago

Isn't the Mac way a good thing though? For example everything on Windows is moving to web apps where I feel they can load just as many trackers onto you eg https://www.theverge.com/news/710509/whatsapp-windows-app-web-wrapper-changes https://www.theverge.com/news/710509/whatsapp-windows-app-we... Whereas on Mac, Meta are keeping their native app presumably because they can't be in the Mac app store with just a web wrapper But maybe I've just got the exact delusion youre talking about in that I view the app as having more functionality. Maybe they need to free web apps to be on a level playing field as you say

akdev1l 1y ago
Most apps on Mac are not on the App Store You download a DMG file or something, then you drag and drop some icon into your “applications” folder It is kind of dumb. I haven’t seen any graphical package manage interface to handle this.
- jdiff 1y ago
  The App Store is the graphical package manager interface. Or in the case of apps that haven't published, the Finder/Applications folder itself. It makes a lot of sense, similar to the way GoboLinux stashed packages in its new world filesystem hierarchy. One folder, one package.
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    You do not need a new filesystem hierarchy for it. I have a "one folder one package" kind of setup (among others), e.g. packages are at ~/.local/pkg and I have them symlinked from there to ~/.local. It works for many programs. I use "zpkg", but you could use "GNU stow", too.
- bratwurst3000 1y ago
  new to mac and when i dis this the first time i was "wtf is this made for children" but I understand more. Its more a folder oriented system. kind of
  - TingPing 1y ago
    Its fine, it just has the quirk that sharing folders sucks and you have to put it in a container so it’s a single file.
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
> many trackers A native app has access to OS information for the same kind of fingerprinting as with browsers, except with more bits of information. The reason, for example, iOS has the “ask app not to track” button is because the tracking could still happen, even more comprehensively than in a browser. Not exactly sure about macOS but I don’t see why it would be different. Meta is keeping their apps as native presumably because native apps make better spyware. I think they literally do not have any other reason; if web apps made better spyware, Meta would push people to use their web apps, simple as. Meta is a spyware company. Technical decisions about deploying/developing their spyware will be informed primarily by their desire to make it more effective as such.

by gargan 1y ago

akdev1l 1y ago

Most apps on Mac are not on the App Store You download a DMG file or something, then you drag and drop some icon into your “applications” folder It is kind of dumb. I haven’t seen any graphical package manage interface to handle this.

jdiff 1y ago
The App Store is the graphical package manager interface. Or in the case of apps that haven't published, the Finder/Applications folder itself. It makes a lot of sense, similar to the way GoboLinux stashed packages in its new world filesystem hierarchy. One folder, one package.
- johnisgood 1y ago
  You do not need a new filesystem hierarchy for it. I have a "one folder one package" kind of setup (among others), e.g. packages are at ~/.local/pkg and I have them symlinked from there to ~/.local. It works for many programs. I use "zpkg", but you could use "GNU stow", too.
bratwurst3000 1y ago
new to mac and when i dis this the first time i was "wtf is this made for children" but I understand more. Its more a folder oriented system. kind of
- TingPing 1y ago
  Its fine, it just has the quirk that sharing folders sucks and you have to put it in a container so it’s a single file.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago

> many trackers A native app has access to OS information for the same kind of fingerprinting as with browsers, except with more bits of information. The reason, for example, iOS has the “ask app not to track” button is because the tracking could still happen, even more comprehensively than in a browser. Not exactly sure about macOS but I don’t see why it would be different. Meta is keeping their apps as native presumably because native apps make better spyware. I think they literally do not have any other reason; if web apps made better spyware, Meta would push people to use their web apps, simple as. Meta is a spyware company. Technical decisions about deploying/developing their spyware will be informed primarily by their desire to make it more effective as such.