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Return to office so you can join zoom meetings!
by pydanny 1y ago
Return to office so you can join zoom meetings!
- kazinator 1y agoThe other day I came to the office to join a Google Meet meeting. Another person near me was also in it, with their laptop speaker on. I'm hearing my headphones and their speaker, plus also them acoustically when it's their turn to speak. So I picked up my laptop and buggered off to a small meeting room where I closed the door and sat alone.
- LtWorf 1y agoAh well at least you got a laptop. At the office I have a desktop so I can't do that.
- Insanity 1y agoIf one would be skeptical about leadership, one might assume that this is a forcing function for people to quit ahead of the layoffs.. :)
- IshKebab 1y agoYeah make the best people who can easily get a job elsewhere quit. Great strategy Intel.
- tayo42 1y agoWhat companies are you all going to then? There's like 10 that pay alot, actually hiring, and have remote work available.
- electriclove 1y ago100% It isn’t just Intel though. A large number of Fortune 500 and government are using this same tactic with the same flaw.
- giancarlostoro 1y agoMy favorite part about working hybrid is that no matter what, nobody meets in person, except the managers once a week, everything else is a Teams meeting at your desk.
- konfusinomicon 1y agoit's called collaboration, and thanks to those sets of complementary off brand noise canceling headphones that welcomed you back to a desk, it's clearly increasing!
- giancarlostoro 1y agoI find it such a darn waste. I spend anywhere from one to two hours commuting on what some consider one of the deadliest highways here, not sure how I-4 fares against the rest of the country though. Accidents every single day it feels like.
- LtWorf 1y agoMine aren't even noise cancelling, and are so terribly designed that my skull gets painful after just 5 minutes of wearing them. But I can (at least for now) wfh for the most part.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoHa! They took away my desk, hotelling space for everyone. At least when the layoffs come, easier to pack.
- giancarlostoro 1y agoThey did this here too, then learned everyone goes back to the same desk, so they're going to do away with it is what I heard.
- stevenAthompson 1y agoHas anyone backtested a stock bot that just shorts every company doing RTO? It's clearly a leading indicator for company collapse.
- generic92034 1y ago> It's clearly a leading indicator for company collapse. So, Amazon, Apple, ... are close to collapse?
- mschuster91 1y agoCreatively? Yes, definitely, at least for Amazon. IMHO, for that company there is an internal battle what they want to be: a webshop filled with garbage or a cloud hyperscaler? The way the web shop is degrading, I strongly assume that Amazon will attempt to exit that business sooner or later. As for Apple, I do love their hardware, but the software side has seen better days.
- generic92034 1y agoAs the previous poster was talking about finance and the stock market I doubt some kind of "creative collapse" was meant.
- mschuster91 1y agoCreative collapse can lead to financial and stock market collapse. Particularly Apple has gone through that already once.
- generic92034 1y agoSee my other reply in this subthread - the money and the moat they have prevents a financial collapse for many years to come, even if they do not improve. So, I doubt RTO is a good indicator for (financial) collapse.
- markus_zhang 1y agoTBF it can also be Google Meet and MS Team ones…
- wtf2025 1y agoI’ve not ever had to experience that particular management style, but I think it’s the one where they don’t give a rat’s ass about their employees or unique thought. I’d also hoped that some major semiconductor company would NOT embrace AI, just so they could differentiate themselves: “Our shit may be too slow for the Terminator to use, but it was designed by and for humans to use as air-gapped spreadsheet running machines with USB-key sneakernet email.” Given that there is a growing backlash towards LLMs by the general public (not just one writers’ guild), that might sell some stock.
- mandevil 1y agoI feel like one of the under-appreciated problems with modern society (1) is the sheer quantity of lies we are surrounded with. RTO is just the current most blatant example (2) in the American economy of people saying lies knowing that they will never be held to account for those lies. All of these lies together are corrupting and destroying civil society, destroying the sense of trust necessary for people to work together, to respect and trust institutions, and to build a better world. As the excellent series Chernobyl put it (in the words crafted by a writer, not an actual scientist) "Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth" and at some point someone is going to have to pay all of those debts. 1: Here I'm focusing on Anglosphere/largely US and UK societies, as a monolingual American that's all I can effectively comment on. 2: 'this will make you more productive/more efficient/more creative' whatever
- anitil 1y agoI find this difficult to navigate sometimes because I find myself looking around the room and wondering "we don't really believe this, right?" but I can never quite be sure
- electriclove 1y agoIt is a complete lie unless of course it is backed by firing people who aren’t good enough. But 99% of the execs who force RTO are really just trying to get people to quit - unfortunately this gets good people to quit and crappy people stay
- lmm 1y agoYou hear a lot about how toxic the hierarchical Japanese workplace is, but the fact that people are willing to openly admit things like "product B is better than product A, but we're going with product A because our CEO is friends with their CEO" ends up being surprisingly refreshing.
- hibikir 1y agoI know a place doing RTO where most teams are at least 50% contractors from Central and South America. You can imagine how productive the office might be for those people, given that everyone is on zoom all day, and there's a whole 4 meeting rooms in a floor with 50 people.