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> America First > anti-Israel American Government became the parody of itself, so sad

netsharc 1y ago
Pointing out this satirical sketch might be a cliche, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY (Mitchell and Webb: Are we the Baddies?)
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hopelite 1y ago
A toxic, psychopathic, narcissistic con job is parody? I don’t think people are at all understanding that they are in an abusive relationship and have been all their lives and so have all the people around them all their lives for many generations now. We have all been born into a cult and that cult is all we know, so we are afraid to even just contemplate for a moment that it could all just be lies and abuses by liars and abusers. If they can get you to voluntarily believe crazy things and do abusive things, they can get you to believe and do anything. That applies to the full political spectrum and for most people. It’s not a farce. It’s something way worse.
aprilthird2021 1y ago
You have to sign a document saying you won't boycott Israel, academic journals cancel editions which talk about Palestine, you can't be part of UNESCO for Israel. You can't write a college article critical of Israel or we'll kidnap you off the streets into an unmarked van. You can't be a business and not give a contract to Israel or your employee will tip off the Anti Boycott Office against you. Your Congressmen wear Israeli military fatigues into the Congress. Your mayoral candidates have to pledge fealty to Israel. We aren't Israeli citizens. Why are we treated like we are?
- jajko 1y ago
  You aren't russian gubernia neither, why does your country behave like one?
- lokar 1y ago
  The right (same people behind project 2025) planned (and are now executing) an effort to use opposition to Israeli policy (calling it anti-Semitic) as a way to crack down and disrupt liberal and progressive groups across the Us. It’s all out in the open, they don’t hide it.
  - lokar 1y ago
    To clarify: my point is they don’t really care about antisemitism, it’s just useful as a wedge And the left does the same kind of thing when it suits them.
  - intalentive 1y ago
    You mean the Heritage Foundation's Project Esther. Left/right is not a useful distinction for the present moment. The recent mayoral elections in New York and Minneapolis suggest that the relevant divide is pro/anti Zionist. You have Democrats, Republicans, Donald Trump, Silicon Valley and the media establishment on one side; with campus leftists, Tucker Carlson, Saagar Enjeti and global public opinion on the other.
- nerdjon 1y ago
  The thing about this that bothers me the most (ok maybe not the most... but its troubling), we have gotten to a point that we are more free to criticize our own government than a foreign government (unless it is about this topic). Like, how that ever became OK is insane to me.
  - hersko 1y ago
    Well this is obviously not true so i wouldn't worry about it too much....

Pointing out this satirical sketch might be a cliche, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY (Mitchell and Webb: Are we the Baddies?)

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hopelite 1y ago

A toxic, psychopathic, narcissistic con job is parody? I don’t think people are at all understanding that they are in an abusive relationship and have been all their lives and so have all the people around them all their lives for many generations now. We have all been born into a cult and that cult is all we know, so we are afraid to even just contemplate for a moment that it could all just be lies and abuses by liars and abusers. If they can get you to voluntarily believe crazy things and do abusive things, they can get you to believe and do anything. That applies to the full political spectrum and for most people. It’s not a farce. It’s something way worse.

aprilthird2021 1y ago

You have to sign a document saying you won't boycott Israel, academic journals cancel editions which talk about Palestine, you can't be part of UNESCO for Israel. You can't write a college article critical of Israel or we'll kidnap you off the streets into an unmarked van. You can't be a business and not give a contract to Israel or your employee will tip off the Anti Boycott Office against you. Your Congressmen wear Israeli military fatigues into the Congress. Your mayoral candidates have to pledge fealty to Israel. We aren't Israeli citizens. Why are we treated like we are?

jajko 1y ago
You aren't russian gubernia neither, why does your country behave like one?
lokar 1y ago
The right (same people behind project 2025) planned (and are now executing) an effort to use opposition to Israeli policy (calling it anti-Semitic) as a way to crack down and disrupt liberal and progressive groups across the Us. It’s all out in the open, they don’t hide it.
- lokar 1y ago
  To clarify: my point is they don’t really care about antisemitism, it’s just useful as a wedge And the left does the same kind of thing when it suits them.
- intalentive 1y ago
  You mean the Heritage Foundation's Project Esther. Left/right is not a useful distinction for the present moment. The recent mayoral elections in New York and Minneapolis suggest that the relevant divide is pro/anti Zionist. You have Democrats, Republicans, Donald Trump, Silicon Valley and the media establishment on one side; with campus leftists, Tucker Carlson, Saagar Enjeti and global public opinion on the other.
nerdjon 1y ago
The thing about this that bothers me the most (ok maybe not the most... but its troubling), we have gotten to a point that we are more free to criticize our own government than a foreign government (unless it is about this topic). Like, how that ever became OK is insane to me.
- hersko 1y ago
  Well this is obviously not true so i wouldn't worry about it too much....