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GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild
- anonzzzies 1y agoLook at those people shouting this will be AGI / total disruption etc. Seems Elon managed one thing; to amass the dumbest folks together. 99.99% maga, crypto and almost markov chain quality comments.
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- ImHereToVote 1y agoMaybe this won't be. How long do you think a machine will be able to outdo any human in any given domain? I personally think it will be after they are able to rewrite their own code. You?
- owebmaster 1y ago> I personally think it will be after they are able to rewrite their own code. My threshold is when it can create a new Google
- ImHereToVote 1y agoWhy not putting it earlier than that. Why not starting and running it's own LLC. I would think when that LLC is bigger than Google it might already be obvious.
- kasey_junk 1y agoThey write their own code now so how long will it be?
- ImHereToVote 1y agoThey "can" write parts of it. But they can't rewire the weights. They are learned not coded.
- Fade_Dance 1y agoSeems like this will be one of the areas that will improve with multi-agentic AI, where groups of agents can operate via consensus, check/test outputs, manage from a higher meta level, etc. Not that any of that would be "magic" but the advantages of expanding laterally to that approach seem fairly obvious when it comes to software development. So in my eyes actually think it's probably more to do with reducing the cost of AI inference by another order of magnitude, at least when it comes to mass market tools. Existing basic code-generation tools from a single AI are already fairly expensive to run compute wise.
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- elif 1y agoYour contrary certainty has the same humorously over-confident tone.
- perching_aix 1y agoWhich is how and why these political strategies work so well.
- AaronAPU 1y agoIt’s incredible how few people can see their own reflection.
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- thm 1y ago99% of AI influencers are the same people who emailed you pictures as a Word attachment a year ago.
- torginus 1y agoThis is what put me off Claude Code. When I wanted. To dig in, I tried to watch a few Youtube videos to see an expert's opinion it, and 90% people who talk about it feel like former crypto shills, who, from their channel history, seem like have never written a single line of code without AI in their lives.
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- plemer 1y agoI get it, but have you reviewed high-quality sources or actually tried the product? Association fallacy: “You know who else was a vegetarian? Hitler.”
- haneul 1y agoAs someone who doesn't keep track of the influencer scene at the moment because I am way addicted to building... You should totally give Claude Code a try. The biggest problem is that it is glaze-optimized, so have to work at getting it to not treat you like the biggest genius of all time. But when you manage to get in a good flow with it, and your project is very predictably searchable, results start to be quite helpful, even if just to unstuck yourself when you're in a rut.
- reactordev 1y agoThis. Claude Code was the only one to be able to grok my 20 year old C++ codebase so that I could update things deep in it's bowels to make it compile because I neglected it on a thumb drive for 15 years. I had no mental model of what was going on. Claude built one in a few minutes.
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- threatripper 1y agoWe have to wait and test it ourselves to see how far it gets in our daily tasks. If the improvement continues like it did in the past, that would be pretty far. Not quite a full researcher position but an average student assistant for sure.
- shiandow 1y agoI'll believe in AGI when OpenAI stops paying human developers.
- brookst 1y agoI don’t see how this follows. Does AGI mean that it is free to operate and has no hardware / power constraints? The fact that I see people being paid to dig a trench does not make me doubt the existence of trenching machines. It just means that the tool is not always the best choice for every job.
- rvz 1y ago> Does AGI mean that it is free to operate and has no hardware / power constraints? It is that and an autonomous system that can generate $100BN dollars in profits. (OpenAI and Microsoft's definition of AGI) So maybe when we see a commercial airplane with no human pilots on board but an LLM piloting the plane with no intervention needed? Would you board such a plane?
- brookst 1y agoExtreme rhetoric weakens arguments. Would you let Albert Einstein perform open heart surgery on you? AHA! Maybe he wasn’t that smart.
- graycat 1y agoAGI???? Again, once again, over again, yet again, one more time: (1) Given triangle ABC, by means of Euclidean construction find point D on line AB and point E on line BC so that the lengths |AD| = |DE| = |EC. (2) Given triangle ABC, by means of Euclidean construction inscribe a square so that each corner of the square is on a side of the triangle. Come ON AGI, let's have some RESULTS that human general intelligence can do -- gee, I solved (1) in the 10th grade.
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- swat535 1y agoWasn't Sam Altman claiming AGI is just a couple of years away and OpenAI is at the forefront of it?
- ogogmad 1y agoIn related news, OpenAI and Google have announced that their latest non-public models have received Gold in the International Mathematics Olympiad: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44614872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44614872 That said, the public models don't even get bronze. [EDIT] Dupe of this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44614872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44614872
- johnecheck 1y agoWow. That's an impressive result, though we definitely need some more details on how it was achieved. What techniques were used? He references scaling up test-time compute, so I have to assume they threw a boatload of money at this. I've heard talk of running models in parallel and comparing results - if OpenAI ran this 10000 times in parallel and cherry-picked the best one, this is a lot less exciting. If this is legit, then I really want to know what tools were used and how the model used them.
- badgersnake 1y ago> If this is legit Indeed.
- chvid 1y agoWhat is this? Guerilla marketing from a 300B startup?
- bgwalter 1y agoNone of the X enthusiasts has even seen a benchmark or used the thing, but we're glad to know that Duke Nukem Forever will be released soon.
- mjburgess 1y agoIt's strange that none of these $100s bn+ companies fund empirical research into the effects of AI tools on actual job roles as part of their "benchmarks". Oh wait, no its not.
- brookst 1y agoAgree, it would be bizarre if they did.
- mjburgess 1y agoIt would be bizarre if they benchmarked the models based on actual task performance?
- brookst 1y agoLet’s not move the goalposts. It would be bizarre if they got into a sociological study of impact on job roles.
- spuz 1y agoNot sure why you think that? One of their biggest sales pitches to businesses is the potential for their products to replace certain job roles in the future. Why wouldn't they be actively doing research on real-world usage and impact right now?
- bawana 1y agoWell i asked chatGPT IF i could run kimik2 on a 5800x 3d with 64 gigs of ram with a 3090 and it said: Yes, you absolutely can run Kimi-K2-Instruct on a PC with: :white_check_mark: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D :white_check_mark: GPU: NVIDIA RTX 3090 (24 GB VRAM) :white_check_mark: RAM: 64 GB system memory This is more than sufficient for both: Loading and running the full Kimi-K2-Instruct model in FP16 or INT8, and Quantizing it with weight-only INT8 using Hugging Face Optimum + bitsandbytes. Kimi k2 has a trillion parameters and even an 8 bit quant would need half a gig of system ram +vram This is with the free chatGPT that us peasants use. I dont have the means to run grok4 heavy, deep seek or kimi k2 to ask them. I cant wait to see what accidental wars will start when we put ai in the kill chain
- ogogmad 1y agoMaybe you should use a reasoning model. Got this from O3, which took 1m31s to think about the answer: https://chatgpt.com/s/t_687b9221fb748191af4e30f597f18443 https://chatgpt.com/s/t_687b9221fb748191af4e30f597f18443 Bottom line: Your 5800X3D + 64 GB RAM + RTX 3090 will run Kimi K2’s 1.8‑bit build, but response times feel more like a leisurely typewriter than a snappy chatbot. If you want comfortable day‑to‑day use, plan either a RAM upgrade or a second (or bigger) GPU—or just hit the Moonshot API and save some waiting.
- threatripper 1y agoI second this. o3 is pretty spot on while 4o answered exactly like what the parent got. I rarely use 4o anymore for anything. Rather would I wait for o3 than quickly get a pile of rubbish.
- brookst 1y ago4o is great for simple lookup and compute tasks; stuff like “scale this recipe to feed 12” or “what US wineries survived prohibition”. o3 all the way for anything needing analysis or creative thought.
- jug 1y agoThese cases are probably why OpenAI has stated GPT-4.1 is their last non reasoning model and GPT-5 will determine the need for and how much to reason based on the query.
- dyl000 1y agocant wait for how mid this is going to be.
- m3kw9 1y agoYeah this is as big of a news as iPhone 18 in the pipeline.
- pjs_ 1y agoSama clocked this way back. He has used this exact analogy - that new GPT models will feel like incremental new iPhone releases c.f. the first iPhone/GPT-3.
- lucisferre 1y agoSeems a bit early to use that analogy though. Early iPhones upgrades generally had significant improvements in almost all specs.
- tim333 1y ago>The declaration of AGI ... will force Microsoft to relinquish its rights to OpenAI revenue ... That's an interesting business arrangement. There must be an incentive for OpenAI to get declaring?