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Sadly it seems like this is indicative of a broader trend in Public Broadcast in the west. In Australia we've seen similar internal criticism of the ABC of an a

by jaek 1y ago

Sadly it seems like this is indicative of a broader trend in Public Broadcast in the west. In Australia we've seen similar internal criticism of the ABC of an anti-palestinian bias in reporting[1]. It's deeply concerning that these publicly funded media outlets are being co-opted and manipulated by a foreign power. [1]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/26/australias-abc-staffs-concerns-over-gaza-bias-revealed https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/26/australias-abc-staf...

strathmeyer 1y ago
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- gruez 1y ago
  >Wanting Israel to exist because the world has shown it will not allow Jews to be safe anywhere else does not make someone manipulated by a foreign power. Is this an alt account? This is basically the exact wording as another comment flagged minutes ago.
  - crystal_revenge 1y ago
    You're seeing what you see all over the web: (badly imho) organized attempted to control public opinion. It's no different than the "50 cent army"[0] commentators and just as obvious to anyone paying attention. These are standard talking points regurgitated ad nauseam anytime certain topics come up. It was always inevitable that social media would devolve into this, but still sad to see it happen in so many places. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
jazzyjackson 1y ago
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- bigyabai 1y ago
  You leapt to at least 3 conclusions in only two sentences. That's talent. 1. "The world" is too broad of an audience to indict. 2. "Anywhere else" does not necessitate the endless support of a rogue state. 3. Israeli statehood is a Zionist matter with a highly mixed opinion among Jews (especially under the current Likud admin).
- malnourish 1y ago
  You can be very much in favor of Israel the country existing, and even defending itself, while still being opposed to Israel's actions in Gaza. I have not seen credible people call such a stance "being manipulated by the Jews".
repeekad 1y ago
I don’t think the country of Israel is explicitly doing the manipulating, I think one country’s allies are just statistically richer and more influential than the other
- engine_y 1y ago
  Like Qatar?
  - aaomidi 1y ago
    Qatar's riches are not that _unique_. It's just oil. It's a commodity.
    - aianus 1y ago
      Qatar sells natural gas not oil
      - aaomidi 1y ago
        Same idea
- defrost 1y ago
  In the case of Australia you're correct in that it's not Israel reaching into Australia to alter opinion. What is the case (in a many layered complex fabric) is that Australian Jewish groups have both actively pushed a narrative and worked hard to discredit any inkling of voice given to Palenstine by the public broadcaster that does work hard to be in the vicinity of neutral. For better or worse they have gamed the Australian media system in their favour. This recently hit the Federal Court of Australia which determined that (former) ABC executives (senior staff of the public broadcaster) caved to a pressure campaign to fire a radio broadcaster who tweeted a link to a Human Rights Watch report (that was unfavourable to Isreal) "in her own time" (not on the public clock and not contrary to any employment agreement). Court Documents: https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-transcripts/online-files/lattouf-v-abc https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-tra... Extensive other reporting elsewhere.
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nandomrumber 1y ago
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- jaek 1y ago
  It's possible to believe that both October 7th and the subsequent genocide of Palestinians are horrific. It's the duty of the press to report on these horrors in an unbiased and impartial manner. > You few bleeding heart lefties Ad hominems aren't arguments, fyi
  - Alive-in-2025 1y ago
    Yes, you are exactly right and I salute you for posting this. I believe the vast majority would say both of your thoughts here. Stop attacks and genocide on all. Hamas was awful on Oct 7, and the attacks on the innocent in Gaza, they are starving them are also.
  - nandomrumber 1y ago
    Sorry, that was supposed to say “a few” not “you few”, dunno how I managed that.
Aeolun 1y ago
How is it possible they influence so much of what happens in western politics, or at least how whole nations respond to their genocidal war anyway?
- bigyabai 1y ago
  One theory is that an abundance of American Christians believe in dispensational premillennialism[0], which rebukes orthodox Judaism in the hopes of returning Christ. Many dispensationalists (including Issac Newton[1]) attempted to interpret the Bible as a function of divine will, and argued that the foundation of Israel is directly imperative due to the prophecy of Daniel. This seems to go against the majority orthodox Judaism interpretation that the Third Temple (as well as the return of Christ) is willed by God alone and not predetermined conditions that men can control. It's a bit out-there, but unfortunately I can't write-off DJT accepting it all at face-value. He's got conspicuous in-laws and an awfully weird track-record writing policy for the Levant. A religious conviction to defend Israel on behalf of his savior seems to slot rather neatly into his internal belief system. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premillennialism#Dispensational_school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premillennialism#Dispensationa... [1] https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16878 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16878
  - somename9 1y ago
    Dispensationalism is a heresy that flows out of the Scofield Bible, created by a con artist, Cyrus Scofield. He was likely funded and supported by Zionists. The Israel of the Bible does not refer to the country Israel, but many Christians have been deceived.
- mikelitoris 1y ago
  The simple truth is there are a lot of zionists in powerful positions both in terms of governmental and monetary. Open wikipedia and look up cabinets and powerful people in US government since WW2. Pay attention to their ethnicity; even if half are zionists, that's a lot of people. Edit: people downvoting this, first part of the comment is just facts, second part is plausible speculation. Why are you downvoting?
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by jaek 1y ago

strathmeyer 1y ago

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gruez 1y ago
>Wanting Israel to exist because the world has shown it will not allow Jews to be safe anywhere else does not make someone manipulated by a foreign power. Is this an alt account? This is basically the exact wording as another comment flagged minutes ago.
- crystal_revenge 1y ago
  You're seeing what you see all over the web: (badly imho) organized attempted to control public opinion. It's no different than the "50 cent army"[0] commentators and just as obvious to anyone paying attention. These are standard talking points regurgitated ad nauseam anytime certain topics come up. It was always inevitable that social media would devolve into this, but still sad to see it happen in so many places. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

jazzyjackson 1y ago

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bigyabai 1y ago
You leapt to at least 3 conclusions in only two sentences. That's talent. 1. "The world" is too broad of an audience to indict. 2. "Anywhere else" does not necessitate the endless support of a rogue state. 3. Israeli statehood is a Zionist matter with a highly mixed opinion among Jews (especially under the current Likud admin).
malnourish 1y ago
You can be very much in favor of Israel the country existing, and even defending itself, while still being opposed to Israel's actions in Gaza. I have not seen credible people call such a stance "being manipulated by the Jews".

repeekad 1y ago

I don’t think the country of Israel is explicitly doing the manipulating, I think one country’s allies are just statistically richer and more influential than the other

engine_y 1y ago
Like Qatar?
- aaomidi 1y ago
  Qatar's riches are not that _unique_. It's just oil. It's a commodity.
  - aianus 1y ago
    Qatar sells natural gas not oil
    - aaomidi 1y ago
      Same idea
defrost 1y ago
In the case of Australia you're correct in that it's not Israel reaching into Australia to alter opinion. What is the case (in a many layered complex fabric) is that Australian Jewish groups have both actively pushed a narrative and worked hard to discredit any inkling of voice given to Palenstine by the public broadcaster that does work hard to be in the vicinity of neutral. For better or worse they have gamed the Australian media system in their favour. This recently hit the Federal Court of Australia which determined that (former) ABC executives (senior staff of the public broadcaster) caved to a pressure campaign to fire a radio broadcaster who tweeted a link to a Human Rights Watch report (that was unfavourable to Isreal) "in her own time" (not on the public clock and not contrary to any employment agreement). Court Documents: https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-transcripts/online-files/lattouf-v-abc https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-tra... Extensive other reporting elsewhere.

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nandomrumber 1y ago

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jaek 1y ago
It's possible to believe that both October 7th and the subsequent genocide of Palestinians are horrific. It's the duty of the press to report on these horrors in an unbiased and impartial manner. > You few bleeding heart lefties Ad hominems aren't arguments, fyi
- Alive-in-2025 1y ago
  Yes, you are exactly right and I salute you for posting this. I believe the vast majority would say both of your thoughts here. Stop attacks and genocide on all. Hamas was awful on Oct 7, and the attacks on the innocent in Gaza, they are starving them are also.
- nandomrumber 1y ago
  Sorry, that was supposed to say “a few” not “you few”, dunno how I managed that.

Aeolun 1y ago

How is it possible they influence so much of what happens in western politics, or at least how whole nations respond to their genocidal war anyway?

bigyabai 1y ago
One theory is that an abundance of American Christians believe in dispensational premillennialism[0], which rebukes orthodox Judaism in the hopes of returning Christ. Many dispensationalists (including Issac Newton[1]) attempted to interpret the Bible as a function of divine will, and argued that the foundation of Israel is directly imperative due to the prophecy of Daniel. This seems to go against the majority orthodox Judaism interpretation that the Third Temple (as well as the return of Christ) is willed by God alone and not predetermined conditions that men can control. It's a bit out-there, but unfortunately I can't write-off DJT accepting it all at face-value. He's got conspicuous in-laws and an awfully weird track-record writing policy for the Levant. A religious conviction to defend Israel on behalf of his savior seems to slot rather neatly into his internal belief system. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premillennialism#Dispensational_school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premillennialism#Dispensationa... [1] https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16878 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16878
- somename9 1y ago
  Dispensationalism is a heresy that flows out of the Scofield Bible, created by a con artist, Cyrus Scofield. He was likely funded and supported by Zionists. The Israel of the Bible does not refer to the country Israel, but many Christians have been deceived.
mikelitoris 1y ago
The simple truth is there are a lot of zionists in powerful positions both in terms of governmental and monetary. Open wikipedia and look up cabinets and powerful people in US government since WW2. Pay attention to their ethnicity; even if half are zionists, that's a lot of people. Edit: people downvoting this, first part of the comment is just facts, second part is plausible speculation. Why are you downvoting?

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