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Open-source Honeycomb storage wall by RostaP: https://www.printables.com/model/152592-honeycomb-storage-wall https://www.printables.com/model/152592-honeycomb-s

by morjom 1y ago

Open-source Honeycomb storage wall by RostaP: https://www.printables.com/model/152592-honeycomb-storage-wall https://www.printables.com/model/152592-honeycomb-storage-wa... https://www.reddit.com/r/honeycombwall/ https://www.reddit.com/r/honeycombwall/ Although they aren't open-source as Gridfinity or HSW: Cargo modular storage system by Play Conveyor: https://thangs.com/designer/Play%20Conveyor/3d-model/Cargo%20Containers%20-%20Modular%20Storage-1191155 https://thangs.com/designer/Play%20Conveyor/3d-model/Cargo%2... Multiboard, by Multiboard: https://www.multiboard.io/ https://www.multiboard.io/

cjonas 1y ago
Why mention multiboard and not honeycomb storage wall (HSW)? It's open source and arguably a better ecosystem.
- morjom 1y ago
  I didn't come across it is why. I'll add it.
- lrvick 1y ago
  Also the proprietary license on multiboard is absolutely insane. Not only is it closed source, even the printed objects have strings attached. If you ever use anything you print from the multiboard library in a for-profit setting you are obligated to pay a monthly license fee. HSW 100%
  - cge 1y ago
    >Also the proprietary license on multiboard is absolutely insane. Licensing in the 3D printing community tends to be a mess, with licenses that are often absurd, and selectively and sometimes dramatically enforced and unenforced. Multiboard is one of the most absurd I've seen, and is so utterly toxic I feel like touching anything involved with it would be risky: I'd really encourage people to read it [1] (and not the misleading summary they give). I suppose by even writing this I'm making myself ineligible for the license, as the license would not allow me to act in any way contrary to the interests of the company behind Multiboard, or even encourage any third part to act contrary to those interests. If the terms aren't absurd enough, there's a clause for the company to terminate the already limited ability to make and use derivative works if they feel you are taking advantage of the license terms. Yet at the same time, go to any 3D printing model website, and you'll see numerous obvious copyright and trademark violations of Multiboard, often under completely incompatible licenses. Not only are these not removed (I have reported them before), but the owners of Multiboard will even officially comment on the sites praising the designs. It's bizarre, but despite things at times going dramatically wrong, like with Benchy's license suddenly being enforced after many years of encouraging violations, people in the community largely seem to ignore the problem. [1]: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1C0-Iyxydqk_d2I3o_5ualJ9Ywt9gwVdl9eukvC8JeKA/mobilebasic https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1C0-Iyxydqk_d2I3o_5ua...
    - MezzoDelCammin 1y ago
      thanks for this one. I've just printed my first two stacks of Multiboard for the office after only reading the license summary. The way they play with "Designed Works" and "commercial use" is really pretty weird. I kinda understand the aim - it's just one guy who's probably trying to make a startup out of this and is kinda hedging his bases against someone coming up with an injection moulded copy on Aliexpress. But the way "commercial use" is left vague is pretty sketchy. Is e.g. "background of an office in a youtube video" considered "commercial use"? That being said, I guess I'll still finish at least one wall with it. I've used a few pegboards over the years and in my experience, these things don't die on licensing. They die on the fact that the manufacturer stops making them / switches to a different size / type. Here I can at least save the STLs and reprint the stuff as needed.
      - lrvick 1y ago
        > Here I can at least save the STLs and reprint the stuff as needed. Until the license is revoked, changed, or you ever do some for profit work from the space where the multiboard exists. Multiboard legally owns the objects you printed on your printer with filament you paid for, so you will still be a pirate! Multiboard is supposedly HSW compatible though so consider only printing HSW parts so you are not locked into their doomed ecosystem.
- dangus 1y ago
  One might choose multiboard if they want better weight bearing characteristics. I went through this whole evaluation a few months ago and that’s how I ended up with Multiboard over the alternatives. I think the license is a negative but I also don’t think it’s going to impact end users in any way that would make me worry about using it. It’s not like I’m dedicating myself to a software ecosystem or something complex like that. If the license somehow becomes a problem, at the end of the day it’s just a pegboard that I printed for under $20 worth of material. I can just make a new one.
pjc50 1y ago
OK, a hex grid wall is really appealing. Now I just need to find a local printer ..
- lrvick 1y ago
  Trust me once you start printing this you are going to want it all over your home and want new panels on demand for any otherwise useless wall space. 3D printers are cheap!
  - baq 1y ago
    They're also relatively big and ideally the thing they're standing on is attached to the wall or has a 40kg damper (i.e. a concrete pavement block or something similar).
    - lrvick 1y ago
      Getting one with an enclosure like a Prusa Core One does wonders for noise reduction. Can even throw it under a desk. I had one in my office for years and no one could hear it on the other side of video calls.
      - baq 1y ago
        I've got a bambu A1 and noise is not a problem at all, I had to put that concrete block underneath it or it'd destroy the cheap coffee table it was standing on due to vibrations :)
        lrvick 1y ago
        Ah yeah that tracks. My enclosed Prusa MK4 is on a big stud-mounted shelf and my huge enclosed Prusa XL is on top of a heavy server rack with locked castors on a concrete floor. Vibration is not noticeable in either case.
    - a_wild_dandan 1y ago
      Consumer printers work well (or even better) without any dampers, and they come in all (e.g. fishbowl) sizes.
poulpy123 1y ago
for the wall there is now also opengrid https://www.printables.com/model/1214361-opengrid-walldesk-mounting-framework-and-ecosystem https://www.printables.com/model/1214361-opengrid-walldesk-m...
hobofan 1y ago
For anyone looking to get into those storage systems I can also highly recommend "Hands on Katie"'s Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@handsonkatie https://www.youtube.com/@handsonkatie - There are a few videos that go into different storage systems and how to combine them to cover different storage needs and vertical/horizontal surfaces. Her Discord is also quite active with people interested in the space, and Underware (under the desk cable management system), Neogrid and Deskware are all storage systems that have came out of her community.
- speedbird 1y ago
  She’s quite a card
  - yapyap 1y ago
    a card?
    - Rebelgecko 1y ago
      It's kinda like a wag, although the term isn't used as often nowadays
      - mcrittenden 1y ago
        A wag?
        gertrunde 1y ago
        Joker, Clown, etc https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/wag https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/wag
- ssimpson 1y ago
  I used the underwear+multiboard for my under desk organization and it’s excellent.
hobofan 1y ago
For walls there is also the GOEWS (Greatly Over Engineered Wall System) - https://goews.xyz https://goews.xyz However personally, I've also been a fan of IKEA Skadis boards, as it's quite easy to get up and running in terms of a baseplate + there are already a lot of models for it out there.
Bystroushaak 1y ago
Can recommend Honeycomb Storage Wall. Printed it two weeks ago, so far I am super happy with it. I've tried multiboard previously, but only a few segments. It was harder to print, I had it for a year and never really got into accessories, it felt too limiting.
cchance 1y ago
Thanks for posting these, the play conveyor ones are so clean and well designed , i've been watching them on youtube from time to time, havent decided to go with gridfinity or play conveyor yet tho

by morjom 1y ago

cjonas 1y ago

Why mention multiboard and not honeycomb storage wall (HSW)? It's open source and arguably a better ecosystem.

morjom 1y ago
I didn't come across it is why. I'll add it.
lrvick 1y ago
Also the proprietary license on multiboard is absolutely insane. Not only is it closed source, even the printed objects have strings attached. If you ever use anything you print from the multiboard library in a for-profit setting you are obligated to pay a monthly license fee. HSW 100%
- cge 1y ago
  >Also the proprietary license on multiboard is absolutely insane. Licensing in the 3D printing community tends to be a mess, with licenses that are often absurd, and selectively and sometimes dramatically enforced and unenforced. Multiboard is one of the most absurd I've seen, and is so utterly toxic I feel like touching anything involved with it would be risky: I'd really encourage people to read it [1] (and not the misleading summary they give). I suppose by even writing this I'm making myself ineligible for the license, as the license would not allow me to act in any way contrary to the interests of the company behind Multiboard, or even encourage any third part to act contrary to those interests. If the terms aren't absurd enough, there's a clause for the company to terminate the already limited ability to make and use derivative works if they feel you are taking advantage of the license terms. Yet at the same time, go to any 3D printing model website, and you'll see numerous obvious copyright and trademark violations of Multiboard, often under completely incompatible licenses. Not only are these not removed (I have reported them before), but the owners of Multiboard will even officially comment on the sites praising the designs. It's bizarre, but despite things at times going dramatically wrong, like with Benchy's license suddenly being enforced after many years of encouraging violations, people in the community largely seem to ignore the problem. [1]: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1C0-Iyxydqk_d2I3o_5ualJ9Ywt9gwVdl9eukvC8JeKA/mobilebasic https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1C0-Iyxydqk_d2I3o_5ua...
  - MezzoDelCammin 1y ago
    thanks for this one. I've just printed my first two stacks of Multiboard for the office after only reading the license summary. The way they play with "Designed Works" and "commercial use" is really pretty weird. I kinda understand the aim - it's just one guy who's probably trying to make a startup out of this and is kinda hedging his bases against someone coming up with an injection moulded copy on Aliexpress. But the way "commercial use" is left vague is pretty sketchy. Is e.g. "background of an office in a youtube video" considered "commercial use"? That being said, I guess I'll still finish at least one wall with it. I've used a few pegboards over the years and in my experience, these things don't die on licensing. They die on the fact that the manufacturer stops making them / switches to a different size / type. Here I can at least save the STLs and reprint the stuff as needed.
    - lrvick 1y ago
      > Here I can at least save the STLs and reprint the stuff as needed. Until the license is revoked, changed, or you ever do some for profit work from the space where the multiboard exists. Multiboard legally owns the objects you printed on your printer with filament you paid for, so you will still be a pirate! Multiboard is supposedly HSW compatible though so consider only printing HSW parts so you are not locked into their doomed ecosystem.
dangus 1y ago
One might choose multiboard if they want better weight bearing characteristics. I went through this whole evaluation a few months ago and that’s how I ended up with Multiboard over the alternatives. I think the license is a negative but I also don’t think it’s going to impact end users in any way that would make me worry about using it. It’s not like I’m dedicating myself to a software ecosystem or something complex like that. If the license somehow becomes a problem, at the end of the day it’s just a pegboard that I printed for under $20 worth of material. I can just make a new one.

pjc50 1y ago

OK, a hex grid wall is really appealing. Now I just need to find a local printer ..

lrvick 1y ago
Trust me once you start printing this you are going to want it all over your home and want new panels on demand for any otherwise useless wall space. 3D printers are cheap!
- baq 1y ago
  They're also relatively big and ideally the thing they're standing on is attached to the wall or has a 40kg damper (i.e. a concrete pavement block or something similar).
  - lrvick 1y ago
    Getting one with an enclosure like a Prusa Core One does wonders for noise reduction. Can even throw it under a desk. I had one in my office for years and no one could hear it on the other side of video calls.
    - baq 1y ago
      I've got a bambu A1 and noise is not a problem at all, I had to put that concrete block underneath it or it'd destroy the cheap coffee table it was standing on due to vibrations :)
      - lrvick 1y ago
        Ah yeah that tracks. My enclosed Prusa MK4 is on a big stud-mounted shelf and my huge enclosed Prusa XL is on top of a heavy server rack with locked castors on a concrete floor. Vibration is not noticeable in either case.
  - a_wild_dandan 1y ago
    Consumer printers work well (or even better) without any dampers, and they come in all (e.g. fishbowl) sizes.

poulpy123 1y ago

for the wall there is now also opengrid https://www.printables.com/model/1214361-opengrid-walldesk-mounting-framework-and-ecosystem https://www.printables.com/model/1214361-opengrid-walldesk-m...

hobofan 1y ago

For anyone looking to get into those storage systems I can also highly recommend "Hands on Katie"'s Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@handsonkatie https://www.youtube.com/@handsonkatie - There are a few videos that go into different storage systems and how to combine them to cover different storage needs and vertical/horizontal surfaces. Her Discord is also quite active with people interested in the space, and Underware (under the desk cable management system), Neogrid and Deskware are all storage systems that have came out of her community.

speedbird 1y ago
She’s quite a card
- yapyap 1y ago
  a card?
  - Rebelgecko 1y ago
    It's kinda like a wag, although the term isn't used as often nowadays
    - mcrittenden 1y ago
      A wag?
      - gertrunde 1y ago
        Joker, Clown, etc https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/wag https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/wag
ssimpson 1y ago
I used the underwear+multiboard for my under desk organization and it’s excellent.

hobofan 1y ago

For walls there is also the GOEWS (Greatly Over Engineered Wall System) - https://goews.xyz https://goews.xyz However personally, I've also been a fan of IKEA Skadis boards, as it's quite easy to get up and running in terms of a baseplate + there are already a lot of models for it out there.

Bystroushaak 1y ago

Can recommend Honeycomb Storage Wall. Printed it two weeks ago, so far I am super happy with it. I've tried multiboard previously, but only a few segments. It was harder to print, I had it for a year and never really got into accessories, it felt too limiting.

cchance 1y ago

Thanks for posting these, the play conveyor ones are so clean and well designed , i've been watching them on youtube from time to time, havent decided to go with gridfinity or play conveyor yet tho