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Dreams: >Framework-like upgradability / repairability / modularity >Support for GrapheneOS >Sold in USA

bramhaag 1y ago
GrapheneOS support for Fairphone is unlikely to ever happen. Their hardware is too insecure to satisfy GOS's reasonable requirements [1] and have stated that they aren't interested in improving it [2]. Software is also lacking and they've partnered with Murena [3], who has been slinging shit at GOS [4]. On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114711328082841462 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114711328082841462 [1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices [2] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480 [3] https://murena.com/ https://murena.com/ [4] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114235396540176085 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114235396540176085
- beeflet 1y ago
  I think that secure elements pose a greater disadvantage to the consumer due to vendor lockdown than the advantages in physical security make up for.
- deleted 1y ago
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- fooqux 1y ago
  That's excellent news that they're partnering with an OEM to make something. Here's hoping it's someone like Framework that has sustainability in mind as well.
  - noisy_boy 1y ago
    Why not Framework themselves? By now, they have brand recognition to certain extent and a ready customer base - I think a Framework phone with choices of GrapheneOS or LineageOS or standard Googleized option could be a very compelling product. That is if they can sort out their availability gaps.
    - UnreachableCode 1y ago
      Massive cost.
- 8K832d7tNmiQ 1y ago
  > On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported I really do not know which other major OEM other than exynos-based samsung that comes near GOS' checklist, but here I am hoping if he is talking about Nothing phone.
beeflet 1y ago
Their phones are sold in the USA through Murena. I've bought a fairphone 4 through them. It was preloaded with eOS but I loaded calyxOS on it, which is similar to GrapheneOS. https://murena.com/products/smartphones/ https://murena.com/products/smartphones/ It also supports a lot of linux distributions, including UBPorts and postmarketOS. I wish that they would just stick with one form factor and do the "framework computer" approach though.
- johnsea 1y ago
  calyxOS is _not_ similar to GrapheneOS
  - freeAgent 1y ago
    It’s similar in some ways, like being de-Googled, more private than Google’s Android OS by default, etc. Both are based on AOSP. They are “similar.”

GrapheneOS support for Fairphone is unlikely to ever happen. Their hardware is too insecure to satisfy GOS's reasonable requirements [1] and have stated that they aren't interested in improving it [2]. Software is also lacking and they've partnered with Murena [3], who has been slinging shit at GOS [4]. On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114711328082841462 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114711328082841462 [1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices [2] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480 [3] https://murena.com/ https://murena.com/ [4] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114235396540176085 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114235396540176085

beeflet 1y ago
I think that secure elements pose a greater disadvantage to the consumer due to vendor lockdown than the advantages in physical security make up for.
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fooqux 1y ago
That's excellent news that they're partnering with an OEM to make something. Here's hoping it's someone like Framework that has sustainability in mind as well.
- noisy_boy 1y ago
  Why not Framework themselves? By now, they have brand recognition to certain extent and a ready customer base - I think a Framework phone with choices of GrapheneOS or LineageOS or standard Googleized option could be a very compelling product. That is if they can sort out their availability gaps.
  - UnreachableCode 1y ago
    Massive cost.
8K832d7tNmiQ 1y ago
> On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported I really do not know which other major OEM other than exynos-based samsung that comes near GOS' checklist, but here I am hoping if he is talking about Nothing phone.

beeflet 1y ago

Their phones are sold in the USA through Murena. I've bought a fairphone 4 through them. It was preloaded with eOS but I loaded calyxOS on it, which is similar to GrapheneOS. https://murena.com/products/smartphones/ https://murena.com/products/smartphones/ It also supports a lot of linux distributions, including UBPorts and postmarketOS. I wish that they would just stick with one form factor and do the "framework computer" approach though.

johnsea 1y ago
calyxOS is _not_ similar to GrapheneOS
- freeAgent 1y ago
  It’s similar in some ways, like being de-Googled, more private than Google’s Android OS by default, etc. Both are based on AOSP. They are “similar.”