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I'm surprised reading that the Iranian's regime concerns are centered on WhatsApp sharing information with Israel. It is much more likely that WhatsApp have 0-d

I'm surprised reading that the Iranian's regime concerns are centered on WhatsApp sharing information with Israel. It is much more likely that WhatsApp have 0-day vulnerabilities used by the Mossad to gain the info than WhatsApp actively sharing it.

jonplackett 1y ago
They are probably concerned it would be the platform of choice to communicate during a revolution that Israel is outspokenly trying to foment.
- grafmax 1y ago
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  - jekwoooooe 1y ago
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    - spaceribs 1y ago
      Yeah! Get your head out of the gutter grafmax! Starving an entire population is totally if not morally equivalent to feeling nominally threatened.
    - archagon 1y ago
      What about the threat of getting blown up by a tank while waiting in an aid line? https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-shelling-kills-45-people-awaiting-aid-trucks-gaza-ministry-says-2025-06-17/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-shell...
yuvalr1 1y ago
> Iran banned WhatsApp and Google Play in 2022 during mass protests against the government So more than fearing Israel, they actually fear the public that has an encrypted communication channel that can't be tapped by their police. Explains a lot.
- throw737484848 1y ago
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  - Ecstatify 1y ago
    Do you have a source for this?
  - mensetmanusman 1y ago
    He is a US citizen, not an Israeli.
- baybal2 1y ago
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- 34679 1y ago
  TikTok ring a bell?
- AlecSchueler 1y ago
  Or it's an issue for multiple reasons at once.
anticodon 1y ago
Russian soldiers participating in SMO reported multiple times that after they exchange texts and photos with their relatives in WhatsApp, that information ends up in Ukrainian military HQs next day. With photos. And later used, for example, to harass the relatives of the soldier. Could be some other mechanism (e.g. Google Drive or some other kind of malware), hard to be sure in the world, where since 2011 Snowden's revelations, bugs are placed my NSA and CIA everywhere, starting from hardware and firmware.
- MoonGhost 1y ago
  > Could be some other mechanism if it was it would be true for telegram as well.
  - anticodon 1y ago
    After arrest of Durov in France I think the same. Doesn't change the fact that any single Russian soldier is not using WhatsApp. It's considered compromised with very convincing evidence, along with some other apps (I don't remember all the names, possible to find in military news channels if you know Russian).
    - MoonGhost 1y ago
      Can you summarize it, was Telegram compromised? Is there evidence of leaks from Russian soldiers' messages.
      - anticodon 1y ago
        There were evidence of leaks of soldiers' messages from WhatsApp. I do not know for sure if there are leaks from Telegram, but I think that Durov was pressed for enabling backdoors for CIA when he was arrested in France. It's not like there's a registry of compromised apps in Russia that is available to public. When there were WhatsApp leaks it was widely published on Russian news channels, that's why I know about it and tell everyone to not trust WhatsApp. But I don't closely follow every news item from the front, I know that some other apps are also considered compromised (mainly some navigation apps), but I don't know the whole list or if Telegram is being used on the front. I guess the safest option is to not use telephone at all at war, since there are probably backdoors everywhere starting from cell modem firmware. I guess that since about middle-end of 2022 all military personnel has the same opinion and stopped using smartphones altogether or use them in flight mode with communications disabled.

jonplackett 1y ago

They are probably concerned it would be the platform of choice to communicate during a revolution that Israel is outspokenly trying to foment.

grafmax 1y ago
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- jekwoooooe 1y ago
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  - spaceribs 1y ago
    Yeah! Get your head out of the gutter grafmax! Starving an entire population is totally if not morally equivalent to feeling nominally threatened.
  - archagon 1y ago
    What about the threat of getting blown up by a tank while waiting in an aid line? https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-shelling-kills-45-people-awaiting-aid-trucks-gaza-ministry-says-2025-06-17/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-shell...

yuvalr1 1y ago

> Iran banned WhatsApp and Google Play in 2022 during mass protests against the government So more than fearing Israel, they actually fear the public that has an encrypted communication channel that can't be tapped by their police. Explains a lot.

throw737484848 1y ago
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- Ecstatify 1y ago
  Do you have a source for this?
- mensetmanusman 1y ago
  He is a US citizen, not an Israeli.
baybal2 1y ago
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34679 1y ago
TikTok ring a bell?
AlecSchueler 1y ago
Or it's an issue for multiple reasons at once.

anticodon 1y ago

Russian soldiers participating in SMO reported multiple times that after they exchange texts and photos with their relatives in WhatsApp, that information ends up in Ukrainian military HQs next day. With photos. And later used, for example, to harass the relatives of the soldier. Could be some other mechanism (e.g. Google Drive or some other kind of malware), hard to be sure in the world, where since 2011 Snowden's revelations, bugs are placed my NSA and CIA everywhere, starting from hardware and firmware.

MoonGhost 1y ago
> Could be some other mechanism if it was it would be true for telegram as well.
- anticodon 1y ago
  After arrest of Durov in France I think the same. Doesn't change the fact that any single Russian soldier is not using WhatsApp. It's considered compromised with very convincing evidence, along with some other apps (I don't remember all the names, possible to find in military news channels if you know Russian).
  - MoonGhost 1y ago
    Can you summarize it, was Telegram compromised? Is there evidence of leaks from Russian soldiers' messages.
    - anticodon 1y ago
      There were evidence of leaks of soldiers' messages from WhatsApp. I do not know for sure if there are leaks from Telegram, but I think that Durov was pressed for enabling backdoors for CIA when he was arrested in France. It's not like there's a registry of compromised apps in Russia that is available to public. When there were WhatsApp leaks it was widely published on Russian news channels, that's why I know about it and tell everyone to not trust WhatsApp. But I don't closely follow every news item from the front, I know that some other apps are also considered compromised (mainly some navigation apps), but I don't know the whole list or if Telegram is being used on the front. I guess the safest option is to not use telephone at all at war, since there are probably backdoors everywhere starting from cell modem firmware. I guess that since about middle-end of 2022 all military personnel has the same opinion and stopped using smartphones altogether or use them in flight mode with communications disabled.