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Sorry - what do you mean by yud-cult? Searching google didn’t help me (as far as I can tell) - I view LW from an outside perspective as well, but don’t understa

Sorry - what do you mean by yud-cult? Searching google didn’t help me (as far as I can tell) - I view LW from an outside perspective as well, but don’t understand the reference

f33d5173 1y ago
Elezier yudkowsky, often referred to as yud, started lw.
lexh 1y ago
Use the debatably intelligent machines for this sort of question not Google. It seems “Yud” here is a shorthand for Yudkowsky. Hinted by the capitalization.
jazzypants 1y ago
They're referring to the founder of that website, Eliezer Yudkowsky, who is controversial due to his 2023 Time article that called for a complete halt on the development of AI. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliezer_Yudkowsky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliezer_Yudkowsky https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/ https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-no...
- heavyset_go 1y ago
  Yudkowsky is controversial for much more than an article from 2023. Yudkowsky lacks credentials and MIRI and its adjacents have proven to be incestuous organizations when it comes to the rationalist cottage industry, one that has a serious problem with sexual abuse and literal cults.
  - diego898 1y ago
    Do you have any references you can share for sexual abuse and/or cults associated with rationalists?
- ninjin 1y ago
  It was not so much the call for a complete halt that caused controversy, but rather this part of his piece in Time (my emphasis): "Make it explicit in international diplomacy that preventing AI extinction scenarios is considered a priority above preventing a full nuclear exchange, and that allied nuclear countries are willing to run some risk of nuclear exchange if that's what it takes to reduce the risk of large AI training runs. That's the kind of policy change that would cause my partner and I to hold each other, and say to each other that a miracle happened, and now there's a chance that maybe [our daughter] will live."
- astrange 1y ago
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  - tomhow 1y ago
    Please don't do this here.
    - astrange 1y ago
      I think it's pretty important to know not to literally join a cult.
      - tomhow 1y ago
        I understand that, but the guidelines don't get relaxed because the topic seems important to you. It's common for people to think that a particular issue is so important that the normal rules shouldn't apply or should be interpreted differently in that case, but we can't run the site like that.

Sorry - what do you mean by yud-cult? Searching google didn’t help me (as far as I can tell) - I view LW from an outside perspective as well, but don’t understand the reference

f33d5173 1y ago

Elezier yudkowsky, often referred to as yud, started lw.

lexh 1y ago

Use the debatably intelligent machines for this sort of question not Google. It seems “Yud” here is a shorthand for Yudkowsky. Hinted by the capitalization.

jazzypants 1y ago

They're referring to the founder of that website, Eliezer Yudkowsky, who is controversial due to his 2023 Time article that called for a complete halt on the development of AI. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliezer_Yudkowsky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliezer_Yudkowsky https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/ https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-no...

heavyset_go 1y ago
Yudkowsky is controversial for much more than an article from 2023. Yudkowsky lacks credentials and MIRI and its adjacents have proven to be incestuous organizations when it comes to the rationalist cottage industry, one that has a serious problem with sexual abuse and literal cults.
- diego898 1y ago
  Do you have any references you can share for sexual abuse and/or cults associated with rationalists?
ninjin 1y ago
It was not so much the call for a complete halt that caused controversy, but rather this part of his piece in Time (my emphasis): "Make it explicit in international diplomacy that preventing AI extinction scenarios is considered a priority above preventing a full nuclear exchange, and that allied nuclear countries are willing to run some risk of nuclear exchange if that's what it takes to reduce the risk of large AI training runs. That's the kind of policy change that would cause my partner and I to hold each other, and say to each other that a miracle happened, and now there's a chance that maybe [our daughter] will live."
astrange 1y ago
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- tomhow 1y ago
  Please don't do this here.
  - astrange 1y ago
    I think it's pretty important to know not to literally join a cult.
    - tomhow 1y ago
      I understand that, but the guidelines don't get relaxed because the topic seems important to you. It's common for people to think that a particular issue is so important that the normal rules shouldn't apply or should be interpreted differently in that case, but we can't run the site like that.