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Plum Village (a Buddhist community founded by Thich Nhat Hanh) has a free app with hours and hours of different kinds of breathing and other types of meditation

by mef51 1y ago

Plum Village (a Buddhist community founded by Thich Nhat Hanh) has a free app with hours and hours of different kinds of breathing and other types of meditation. They also upload meditations regularly on their youtube. This web page also has some good resources and breathing meditations. https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/mindfulness-practice https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/mindfulness-practice Highly recommend

mistrial9 1y ago
ok certainly this is a high quality source BUT breathwork should be done with supervision of a practitioner that has some sense. Like swimming (?) this ordinary activity can do great damage in relatively rare situations, or someone trying to do "extreme" practices without guardrails.
- ethersteeds 1y ago
  Your position is that breathing practice is too dangerous to attempt unsupervised due to risks equivalent to drowning while swimming? While I don't doubt there's a way to breathe so wrong that it has negative effects, I'm sceptical. But I wouldn't think twice about swimming alone, so maybe I live on the edge.
  - cykros 1y ago
    Aleister Crowley somewhat famously gave himself asthma doing some fairly extreme pranayama, which led to him using heroin medicinally which led to him using heroin somewhat less medicinally for the duration of his life. Yes, the guy was known for going big on most things he did. But it is worth throwing in the asterisk.
  - TrainedMonkey 1y ago
    While we all practice breathing since birth I do believe that trying some advanced techniques could be dangerous. See https://zeta.blue/physiology https://zeta.blue/physiology for possible effects. People have unique physiological, and mental limits. As a toy example we could imagine someone holding their breath until they pass out and fall.
    - gloosx 1y ago
      >we could imagine someone holding their breath until they pass out and fall. It is not easy to imagine this. Brain have protective mechanisms in place to prevent this. If someone is holding their breath for too long - they start experiencing an immense, primal fear which magnifies tenfold every second. It is close to impossible to consciously bear that fear and continue holding your breath – every other second requires years of practice. You will inhale, if you can. Your body simply wont let you fail or pass out.
  - ejoso 1y ago
    You can most definitely get into trouble with breathing exercises. Just consider for a second what hyperventilating looks like, or hypo-ventilating. That is one of the things many pranayama and other breathing exercises do. Restricting &/or increasing oxygen to the body/brain for extended periods of time… what could go wrong?
- vonnik 1y ago
  I made a simple app inspired by Richie Davidson’s research that teaches people how to change their state with breath. https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/ https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/
  - out-of-ideas 1y ago
    i feel the growing circle could use a fixed area of where it will grow too [and shrink from] edit; but otherwise, seems simple and great design!
    - vonnik 1y ago
      Thanks, will work on this.
  - msephton 1y ago
    This is cool. Please add a little bit of code that allows me to save and run it as a web app from my iPhone home screen. Thanks!
    - vonnik 1y ago
      Will try do build this for you!
  - profsummergig 1y ago
    1) I tried it, enjoyed it, thank you for building it. 2) I learned something new: I was aware of how making the exhale longer than the inhale promoted relaxation. Somehow I hadn't thought of inverting it for the opposite effect: more energy. Your app mentioned it and it was an "aha" moment for me. I tried it, and certainly feel something, but too early to say if it's a placebo effect or something real. Thank you for this new knowledge. 3) The pause portion. What does Richie Davidson (or other research say about it). What does it do, please? That is, what is the difference between not pausing at all between inhale and exhale, vs. pausing (i.e. box breathing)? Thanks in advance.
    - 1y ago

by mef51 1y ago

mistrial9 1y ago

ok certainly this is a high quality source BUT breathwork should be done with supervision of a practitioner that has some sense. Like swimming (?) this ordinary activity can do great damage in relatively rare situations, or someone trying to do "extreme" practices without guardrails.

ethersteeds 1y ago
Your position is that breathing practice is too dangerous to attempt unsupervised due to risks equivalent to drowning while swimming? While I don't doubt there's a way to breathe so wrong that it has negative effects, I'm sceptical. But I wouldn't think twice about swimming alone, so maybe I live on the edge.
- cykros 1y ago
  Aleister Crowley somewhat famously gave himself asthma doing some fairly extreme pranayama, which led to him using heroin medicinally which led to him using heroin somewhat less medicinally for the duration of his life. Yes, the guy was known for going big on most things he did. But it is worth throwing in the asterisk.
- TrainedMonkey 1y ago
  While we all practice breathing since birth I do believe that trying some advanced techniques could be dangerous. See https://zeta.blue/physiology https://zeta.blue/physiology for possible effects. People have unique physiological, and mental limits. As a toy example we could imagine someone holding their breath until they pass out and fall.
  - gloosx 1y ago
    >we could imagine someone holding their breath until they pass out and fall. It is not easy to imagine this. Brain have protective mechanisms in place to prevent this. If someone is holding their breath for too long - they start experiencing an immense, primal fear which magnifies tenfold every second. It is close to impossible to consciously bear that fear and continue holding your breath – every other second requires years of practice. You will inhale, if you can. Your body simply wont let you fail or pass out.
- ejoso 1y ago
  You can most definitely get into trouble with breathing exercises. Just consider for a second what hyperventilating looks like, or hypo-ventilating. That is one of the things many pranayama and other breathing exercises do. Restricting &/or increasing oxygen to the body/brain for extended periods of time… what could go wrong?
vonnik 1y ago
I made a simple app inspired by Richie Davidson’s research that teaches people how to change their state with breath. https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/ https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/
- out-of-ideas 1y ago
  i feel the growing circle could use a fixed area of where it will grow too [and shrink from] edit; but otherwise, seems simple and great design!
  - vonnik 1y ago
    Thanks, will work on this.
- msephton 1y ago
  This is cool. Please add a little bit of code that allows me to save and run it as a web app from my iPhone home screen. Thanks!
  - vonnik 1y ago
    Will try do build this for you!
- profsummergig 1y ago
  1) I tried it, enjoyed it, thank you for building it. 2) I learned something new: I was aware of how making the exhale longer than the inhale promoted relaxation. Somehow I hadn't thought of inverting it for the opposite effect: more energy. Your app mentioned it and it was an "aha" moment for me. I tried it, and certainly feel something, but too early to say if it's a placebo effect or something real. Thank you for this new knowledge. 3) The pause portion. What does Richie Davidson (or other research say about it). What does it do, please? That is, what is the difference between not pausing at all between inhale and exhale, vs. pausing (i.e. box breathing)? Thanks in advance.
  - 1y ago