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If the numbers are true, this would be one of the more successful attacks in history. Drones are changing the whole dynamic of wars.

• consumer451 1y ago
  My concern is that it doesn't just change war, but security in general. I don't think that we have realized the real implications of this technology, especially the fiber optic drones.
  • larodi 1y ago
    Real implications are that once again you don’t want your personal shit being public, which will still take some while for gen.audience to understand about social media and all sorts of corporate surveillance.
    • tim333 1y ago
      I don't think my or most people's shit being public will result in fiber optic drone attack.
  • JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > I don't think that we have realized the real implications of this technology Define “we.” The defence community has been deeply engaged with what’s going on in Ukraine since ‘22. (And the supremacy of sensor fusion in India’s air battle with Pakistan.)
    • consumer451 1y ago
      We as a society. I don't want to write down my detailed thoughts on this, but anyone with a red team mind can imagine the implications for personal security.
      • jacquesm 1y ago
        Bluntly: nothing is safe from drones + a determined operator. No airfield, no aircraft on the ground, no government institution. Drones have changed warfare forever and Ukraine is writing the manual for future operations. What happened today was unthinkable 10 years ago. As one side effect I predict that at least in some places private drone ownership will become illegal. Think about it: for a few hundred K you get to take out a good chunk of a nuclear power's strike capability.
        • JumpCrisscross 1y ago
          > Drones have changed warfare forever We’re in a strategic imbalance. Cold War air defences were trained on high-value targets, like strategic bombers and spy planes. So currently our air defences are overspecced for something like this. Nothing about drones makes them inherently undetectable. You just need a different model. I suspect those should be commonplace within 20 years, potentially a decade. > at least in some places private drone ownership will become illegal I could see ownership being restricted in wartime. More likely is eager air defences shredding birds on perimeters.
          • nothercastle 1y ago
            Exactly ad well catch up but is limited by inefficiencies of procurement
        • threatofrain 1y ago
          Won't the cat and mouse game ultimately tilt to the side of defense? I imagine automated rifles are basically impossible to dodge. Automated rifles sound much more scary to me. Plant a rifle and wait a year, works on people and drones.
          • lmm 1y ago
            > Won't the cat and mouse game ultimately tilt to the side of defense? Probably not. Most of the history of war is weapons getting stronger and stronger and defence getting harder and harder. E.g. in ancient times a shield or simple palisade could protect you, now even tanks and trenches are not safe. The days of being able to build a wall along a border and hold it against a peer adversary are long gone and not coming back.
  • tenuousemphasis 1y ago
    Fiber optic drones? AI drones are the really scary one. No control frequency to jam, no fiber to carry.