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Which is more expensive than an esp32 and a led panel, and less convenient.

tekla 1y ago
A "Do not disturb" sign costs roughly zero with a pen and a piece of paper. Also, I have no idea how out of touch you have to be to claim that a simple sign that costs a few bucks is less convenient than something that requires power, another peripheral that requires power, and network access.
- dathery 1y ago
  Fortunately my home office has an abundance of both power and network access (especially compared to the scarce resource of human attention!) Why insist on being so negative? It's a cool little project. Just keep scrolling if it's not for you.
  - ctxc 1y ago
    Exactly! Do these things not bring people joy in the drudgery of routine solutions?!
- Dylan16807 1y ago
  > Also, I have no idea how out of touch you have to be to claim that a simple sign that costs a few bucks is less convenient than something that requires power, another peripheral that requires power, and network access. If you go ask random people whether they'd rather update a sign several times a day, or plug it in and be done for a year, what do you think they'd answer?
  - lurk2 1y ago
    > or plug it in and be done for a year Until the network goes down or an element of the hardware fails, or you move and need to set it up again, or… People liked the idea of smart homes, too, but they remain niche because you need the money or technical know-how to fix them when they fall over.
    - Dylan16807 1y ago
      Well I didn't say be done forever, I said a year. I think that covers hardware failure and moving just fine. If the network goes down, you're not in an online meeting. And this is someone that has the know-how.
- hackable_sand 1y ago
  Or just embracing interruptions and responding to them like an adult. dnd signs read "passive aggressive"
- BrandoElFollito 1y ago
  And for the cost of zero you get something which is never used because forgot, did not have time, forgot to take off, lost the paper and the meeting started, missed the meeting running to the door to put the sign, and many others.
- 542354234235 1y ago
  It depends on what you mean by convenient. A sign has low set up cost, so is convenient to implement. But it has an extremely high operating cost, that adds two extra steps to every meeting, which could add up to 40 or more per week. Small things you have to do often add up, and a quick task is still a task you have to remember every single time. An automated solution has a high start up cost and is much less convenient to set up or to “fix” if it goes down. But it has an almost zero operating cost, in that you don’t have to remember or perform any additional tasks for a meeting. For me, automating small tasks I have to remember to do over and over and over is very valuable to me, as those are the things that take up valuable space in my “stay on track” mind and distract from bigger more important tasks.

A "Do not disturb" sign costs roughly zero with a pen and a piece of paper. Also, I have no idea how out of touch you have to be to claim that a simple sign that costs a few bucks is less convenient than something that requires power, another peripheral that requires power, and network access.

dathery 1y ago
Fortunately my home office has an abundance of both power and network access (especially compared to the scarce resource of human attention!) Why insist on being so negative? It's a cool little project. Just keep scrolling if it's not for you.
- ctxc 1y ago
  Exactly! Do these things not bring people joy in the drudgery of routine solutions?!
Dylan16807 1y ago
> Also, I have no idea how out of touch you have to be to claim that a simple sign that costs a few bucks is less convenient than something that requires power, another peripheral that requires power, and network access. If you go ask random people whether they'd rather update a sign several times a day, or plug it in and be done for a year, what do you think they'd answer?
- lurk2 1y ago
  > or plug it in and be done for a year Until the network goes down or an element of the hardware fails, or you move and need to set it up again, or… People liked the idea of smart homes, too, but they remain niche because you need the money or technical know-how to fix them when they fall over.
  - Dylan16807 1y ago
    Well I didn't say be done forever, I said a year. I think that covers hardware failure and moving just fine. If the network goes down, you're not in an online meeting. And this is someone that has the know-how.
hackable_sand 1y ago
Or just embracing interruptions and responding to them like an adult. dnd signs read "passive aggressive"
BrandoElFollito 1y ago
And for the cost of zero you get something which is never used because forgot, did not have time, forgot to take off, lost the paper and the meeting started, missed the meeting running to the door to put the sign, and many others.
542354234235 1y ago
It depends on what you mean by convenient. A sign has low set up cost, so is convenient to implement. But it has an extremely high operating cost, that adds two extra steps to every meeting, which could add up to 40 or more per week. Small things you have to do often add up, and a quick task is still a task you have to remember every single time. An automated solution has a high start up cost and is much less convenient to set up or to “fix” if it goes down. But it has an almost zero operating cost, in that you don’t have to remember or perform any additional tasks for a meeting. For me, automating small tasks I have to remember to do over and over and over is very valuable to me, as those are the things that take up valuable space in my “stay on track” mind and distract from bigger more important tasks.