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I'm from West Yorkshire, the dialect is slowly fading. My grandfather would speak with a strong accent and with spatterings of Norse words. I notice now that, y
by franticgecko3 1y ago
I'm from West Yorkshire, the dialect is slowly fading. My grandfather would speak with a strong accent and with spatterings of Norse words. I notice now that, yes, dialects in the UK are becoming homogenised but there is also some American influence seeping in. The American way of pronouncing a double t as a d "better" => "bedder" is increasingly more prevalent in the UK, it's slightly saddening.
- rwmj 1y agoPronouncing zed as "zee" is particularly annoying (as in "Gen Z").
- 1659447091 1y agoanytime I hear someone use "zed" for Z(ee) the next thing I hear in my head is "Zed's dead, baby"[0] Pulp Fiction and I just can't help but chuckle [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3aAvhUucI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3aAvhUucI
- dave333 1y agoI emigrated from the UK to USA in 1980 and my first code review at Bell Labs I spent about 30 mins explaining my code and then asked if there were any final questions and someone hesitantly asked, "What is this variable 'zed' you keep talking about?"
- rwmj 1y agoI used to work for a networking start-up and when we were in the US trying - without success - to sell the company we practised over and over saying "roWter" for "router" (English pronunciation like "rooter").
- wcarss 1y agoAs a Canadian I read that as "rOATer" for a moment, because the word row rhyming with ow is quite uncommon here -- the row I know is in a boating or a data context.
- dfawcus 1y agoAs a Brit, so did I. That said, a "rotor" would be pronounced as "rOATer" and has a completely different meaning. isn't English fun !
- ninalanyon 1y agoYou never have a row with anyone?
- wisemang 1y agoAs a Canadian, obviously not. (For real though we don’t use that word for argument or whatever.)
- BrandoElFollito 1y agoFunny, I just realised that I say "rooter" in French (because route ("roote") means way, like in English), but I say "rAWter" in English
- ninalanyon 1y agoThere are two words with the same spelling but separate pronunciations in British English: Router (rooter) the thing that routes packets in a newtwork Router (rowter) a machine tool that cuts grooves, etc., in wood or metal.
- BrandoElFollito 1y agoAh, so I pronounce the IT equipment wrong. I guess that "raw-ter" sounds really bad then.
- dave333 1y agoHaving posted the above a few days ago, last night I (originally from the UK) was in the car with my wife (US born and bred) following and reciting map directions on my phone like "0.8 miles left on San Antonio" which I say as UK standard "nought point eight miles left on San Antonio." After a while she asks "what is nought?" Here we just say "point 8 miles" or "zero point eight miles." We've only been married 42 years and are still learning each other's language:-)
- 1659447091 1y agoSome time ago a few people from the UK kept calling/referring to someone as a nonce. It took me awhile to say something, but I finally asked because I simply couldn't understand or wrap my head around why they kept referring to this person as a single use random number (mostly for authentication in my case). It was so confusing.
- stevekemp 1y agoThe one that gets me the most is English people suddenly saying "fall" instead of "autumn".
- dfawcus 1y agoIt is a traditional one which fell out of fashion. https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/learn-about/weather/seasons/autumn/autumn-facts https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/learn-about/weather/seasons... https://twominenglish.com/autumn-vs-fall/ https://twominenglish.com/autumn-vs-fall/ Now if we start saying "diaper" again instead of "nappy", you can start to worry.
- mr_toad 1y agoThe weirdest one to me is the English suddenly referring to police as "feds". https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/37256/police-in-general-as-feds#37594 https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/37256/police-in-... It's not like they didn't already have dozens of slang terms for the police.
- PaulRobinson 1y agoThere was a cartoon in Private Eye a couple of weeks ago that suggested the reason why Millenials and Gen Z could never be reconciled is that they can't agree whether it's pronounced "Generation Zed", or "Generation Zee", as the younger generation themselves would call it.
- hermitcrab 1y agoI find Valley speak, where people say 'like' every third word, infuriating.
- rad_gruchalski 1y ago“Literally”!
- casenmgreen 1y agoI may be completely wrong, but I think one direction of evolution in pronunciation is the gradual shift to that which takes less physical effort to pronounce. "Bedder" is less physical work, less effort, in the mouth than "better".
- trollbridge 1y agoExact same thing is happening in Australia. I'm guessing it's from watching streaming video, Netflix, TikTok, etc. where American accents predominate, and any non-American accents are flattened enough to be sure it's easy for Americans to understand them.
- d_burfoot 1y agoIt's weird that the mainstream TV execs think audiences want boring American accents. To me, one of the best things about the White Lotus (hit HBO show) is that it highlights a distinct array of accents (including Australian).
- IIsi50MHz 1y agoThanks! Now I'm inclined to watch it. I do love when shows make a point of keeping distinct accents. What with having moved a lot as a bairn, I feel that accents in many places are fading away. And also, I tend to sound like whoever I've been talking most to for the last two hours. It's a bit weird, that…makes people ask why I'm speaking with x accent. (^_^);
- HK-NC 1y agoNorse words?
- smh 1y agohttps://www.viking.no/e/england/e-yorkshire_norse.htm https://www.viking.no/e/england/e-yorkshire_norse.htm Most have fallen out of use but e.g. 'laik' is still understood by young people.
- mhandley 1y agoBeck, meaning stream (small river), is one I remember from growing up in the north east.
- kevin_thibedeau 1y agoIt may alleveiate the epidemic of th-fronting among young men.
- fsckboy 1y agoi fought like you for many years but i fink it's just part of the accent now
- simonh 1y agoWhen I was staying with a friend in Norway once we visited his mother, and to me she sounded like someone with a broad Durham/Newcastle accent (my mother is from there) speaking German. A lot of north east words are germanic, or Scandinavian. My grandfather was a farmer near Durham and pigs were swine, children were bairns. As for American influence, my youngest daughter picked up a lot of that from Youtube at one point, and I once interviewed a girl from Gravesend with such a strong US accent I assumed she'd grown up over there.
- joeross 1y agoI agree, it’s very sattening
- NikkiA 1y agoThere really isn't one 'west yorkshire' accent, nor one 'north yorkshire' accent, there is much much more variety than that. A leeds resident sounds different from a wakefield or dewsbury resident, and even then there can be variation where some people exhibit less of their locale accent than others, depending on how much they rebelled against sounding 'local' in their teens.