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So the US has been, more or less, the best place in the world to do business. Stocks historically soaring, yadda yadda yadda ... and somehow this guy sells the

So the US has been, more or less, the best place in the world to do business. Stocks historically soaring, yadda yadda yadda ... and somehow this guy sells the story that the US has been taking advantage of by all the other evil countries in the world. It does not, in any way, make sense. What a clown. A totalitorian clown unfortunately.

MaxHoppersGhost 1y ago
Would love to know what your country's tariffs are on the US.
- teekert 1y ago
  You are downvoted but this never mentioned indeed. I have a hard time finding how much us Europeans pay in tariffs on stuff from China and the US.
  - knowaveragejoe 1y ago
    It's downvoted because it's a transparent and weak attempt to "both sides" something that's not both-sidesable.
    - colordrops 1y ago
      Why is it not "both-sidesable"?
      - asacrowflies 1y ago
        Middle ground fallacy
        colordrops 1y ago
        No, I'm asking for details in this specific case. I don't have deep knowledge and understanding of the subject, so why is it no applicable in this case?
        verteu 1y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_ra... > The European Commission says it charges an average tariff of just 1% on US products entering the EU market, "considering the actual trade in goods". It adds that the US administration collected approximately €7 billion of tariffs on EU products in 2023 compared to the EU's €3 billion on US goods. > A World Trade Organisation (WTO) estimate puts the average tariff rate on US products entering the EU slightly higher at 4.8%. > In both cases, this is far off the 39% figure quoted by the Trump administration. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/03/fact-check-are-donald-trumps-tariffs-on-the-eu-really-reciprocal https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/03/fact-check-are...
    - kolanos 1y ago
      Imagine calling trade "not both-sidesable". You can't make this stuff up.
      - knowaveragejoe 1y ago
        We're not talking about trade, we're talking about executive actions hampering trade.
  - 332451b 1y ago
    For the EU and US: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_25_541 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_... > For technical reasons, there is not one “absolute” figure for the average tariffs on EU-US trade, as this calculation can be done in a variety of ways which produce quite varied results. Nevertheless, considering the actual trade in goods between the EU and US, in practice the average tariff rate on both sides is approximately 1%. In 2023, the US collected approximately €7 billion of tariffs on EU exports, and the EU collected approximately €3 billion on US exports.
  - consp 1y ago
    > https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/internetaankopen/content/zijn-er-extra-kosten-als-ik-een-pakket-bestel-buiten-de-eu https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/internetaa... Is suspect you can translate yourself. Every country has a site I am sure (looked up uk tarifs yesterday for instance)
    - teekert 1y ago
      So depending on the goods, between 0 and 17%.
      - roflyear 1y ago
        Yeah, I think best way is to look at the total tariffs collected by the EU on US goods - about $3.3b USD in 2023 - compared to imports ~$370b USD in 2023. So like, 1%.

MaxHoppersGhost 1y ago

Would love to know what your country's tariffs are on the US.

teekert 1y ago
You are downvoted but this never mentioned indeed. I have a hard time finding how much us Europeans pay in tariffs on stuff from China and the US.
- knowaveragejoe 1y ago
  It's downvoted because it's a transparent and weak attempt to "both sides" something that's not both-sidesable.
  - colordrops 1y ago
    Why is it not "both-sidesable"?
    - asacrowflies 1y ago
      Middle ground fallacy
      - colordrops 1y ago
        No, I'm asking for details in this specific case. I don't have deep knowledge and understanding of the subject, so why is it no applicable in this case?
        verteu 1y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_ra... > The European Commission says it charges an average tariff of just 1% on US products entering the EU market, "considering the actual trade in goods". It adds that the US administration collected approximately €7 billion of tariffs on EU products in 2023 compared to the EU's €3 billion on US goods. > A World Trade Organisation (WTO) estimate puts the average tariff rate on US products entering the EU slightly higher at 4.8%. > In both cases, this is far off the 39% figure quoted by the Trump administration. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/03/fact-check-are-donald-trumps-tariffs-on-the-eu-really-reciprocal https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/03/fact-check-are...
  - kolanos 1y ago
    Imagine calling trade "not both-sidesable". You can't make this stuff up.
    - knowaveragejoe 1y ago
      We're not talking about trade, we're talking about executive actions hampering trade.
- 332451b 1y ago
  For the EU and US: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_25_541 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_... > For technical reasons, there is not one “absolute” figure for the average tariffs on EU-US trade, as this calculation can be done in a variety of ways which produce quite varied results. Nevertheless, considering the actual trade in goods between the EU and US, in practice the average tariff rate on both sides is approximately 1%. In 2023, the US collected approximately €7 billion of tariffs on EU exports, and the EU collected approximately €3 billion on US exports.
- consp 1y ago
  > https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/internetaankopen/content/zijn-er-extra-kosten-als-ik-een-pakket-bestel-buiten-de-eu https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/internetaa... Is suspect you can translate yourself. Every country has a site I am sure (looked up uk tarifs yesterday for instance)
  - teekert 1y ago
    So depending on the goods, between 0 and 17%.
    - roflyear 1y ago
      Yeah, I think best way is to look at the total tariffs collected by the EU on US goods - about $3.3b USD in 2023 - compared to imports ~$370b USD in 2023. So like, 1%.