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TV Garden
- AnotherGoodName 1y agoFor me the site is incredibly snappy. Amazing. As in i clicked Australia, clicked ABC TV and it all loaded in milliseconds.
- emmelaich 1y agoIt's missing a few major channels, Seven and Nine afaics. Maybe they don't offer free iptv.
- dkh 1y agoMost of these are being "offered" in a way not intended or desired by the broadcaster
- genewitch 1y agoSo let's link it to a site that can ddos sites, and probably has employees of media companies in it! I'm all for sharing, but I was hoping this bit of awesome joy would not be linked here. I wonder if OP heard about it from the NA podcast or from someone who does listen to it. It was mentioned last week Thursday to the tune of a million people, so, I guess "yes".
- dkh 1y agoOh the irony of wanting such a site to exist but to keep it a bit of a secret. There are a zillion streams on this site, so unclear if enough additional traffic will be going to any particular one of them to be noticed by the sources. Certainly some number of media company employees will be aware of it due to it hitting HN, but I have my doubts that there are many media employees who read HN who didn't already know these things existed and/or would do anything about it
- genewitch 1y agothe odd thing, i suppose, is i probably won't use the site as i don't watch broadcast TV at all; but just for research, testing / using / tuning speech to text (translate and transcribe,) and comparing coverage of news stories it is invaluable. It would be awful if it had to shut down because it was linked on a VC forum where people often defend IP.
- aspenmayer 1y ago> I wonder if OP heard about it from the NA podcast What podcast do you mean?
- genewitch 1y agohere's the cite: https://noagenda.clipgenie.com/content/34613737-6134-3364-6663-636561636636?filtered=true&offset=9&order=desc¶graphs=&partial=false&q=tv+garden&qty=9&sort=root&tab= https://noagenda.clipgenie.com/content/34613737-6134-3364-66...
- aspenmayer 1y agoThanks for the link. On a related note, that's a pretty neat site for podcasts. I vaguely remember that John C. Dvorak had a podcast, but I honestly had forgotten about him since the TechTV/ZDTV days. Though I may not always agree with him, I've always appreciated his point of view and personality. In the world of tech journalism, he's one of the best.
- jaqalopes 1y agoThis is pretty amazing. I clicked on a Luganda-language channel in Uganda and it was a concerned-looking woman being interviewed for a news segment about a "for men" testosterone supplement. Kind of heartening to see that people everywhere are the same, for better and for worse.
- forks 1y agoOne of those things that's so cool it's hard to believe it's legal
- caseyy 1y agoThere are many broadcasting laws worldwide, many quite archaic. Even Radio Garden got meaningfully restricted in the UK (only licensed national radio stations are allowed by a high court ruling). I worry for projects like TV Garden but they are undoubtedly very cool.
- lxgr 1y agoWait, what? Receiving foreign web radio streams in the UK is prohibited?! How is that even enforced?
- caseyy 1y agoA UK High Court ruled in 2019 that websites like TuneIn are distributing illegal music[0]. It went to appeals but the previous ruling was upheld. There hasn't been much clarification beyond that nor very clear enforcement. But the precedent this ruling set makes companies fear repercussions if they accidentally link to a stream that has content not licensed for the UK. To interpret this ruling broadly would be to break the internet[1]: > The claimants say that a finding for the defendant will fatally undermine copyright. The defendant says that a finding for the claimants will break the internet. As usual, this happened due to rather rabid approach to copyright by big American labels. They may be legally in the right, though their actions, as always, have meaningful negative externalities. How far they reach in this case is unclear, but TuneIn and Radio Garden both have blocked non-UK streams for UK listeners. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TuneIn#Legal_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TuneIn#Legal_issues [1] https://excesscopyright.blogspot.com/2019/11/did-uk-judge-just-break-internet-stay.html https://excesscopyright.blogspot.com/2019/11/did-uk-judge-ju...
- lxgr 1y agoWow, truly bizarre. And TuneIn and Radio Garden don't even host any streams, to my knowledge; they're mere directories!
- vault 1y agoThanks. I could spend hours watching distant cultures. Their colours, environment, technical equipment... I saw some people in Somalia using DJI microphones, those that in the West are mainly used by YouTubers. I also see TVs that are normally subject to fees. I'm aware the FAQs say it's only public streams, but I fear this won't last long.
- lxgr 1y agoNon-public streams wouldn’t be published without DRM, or at least not as publicly retrievable (i.e. without any authentication) M3U playlists, would they?
- cadamsdotcom 1y agoYes - for some of these you can stream if you know the URL, but you're only able to discover the URL after making an account.
- lxgr 1y agoIf they contain some entropy, i.e. if there's path/parameter based bearer token authentication, sure. https://iptv.example.com/720p.m3u8 https://iptv.example.com/720p.m3u8? I doubt you'll convince many courts of that being nonpublic.
- dkh 1y agoI think a number of these are also public rebroadcasts piggybacking off a less-public source. Definitely a lot of these are also [re]broadcasts from vendors, probably for a specific platform or distribution target, that people found the URLs for and that the original source isn't super aware of the details of
- larfus 1y agoI think its inevitable death will be from all that unrestricted pornography. That being said, these kinds of projects usually hold up for quite some time.
- magicmicah85 1y agoLove the website design. Very neat to just drop in on a country, see what’s on. Was watching two guys in Afghanistan acting goofy in a commercial. Just fascinating.
- thundergolfer 1y agoOne of those projects that has me wondering what I was doing instead of building this. The end result is great, and the technical details seem like they'd be interesting. TIL about Internet Protocol TV: https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv
- phantomathkg 1y agoWhat you see in that repo is not truly true IPTV[0]. What you see in the repo is a lot of different HLS manifest[1], which in turn pointed to different questionable sources of all the OTT streams around the world. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_IPTV_Forum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_IPTV_Forum [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming
- anjel 1y agoSo the cable pirated TV to IPTV reflector streams are being re-pirated or maybe just Liberated?
- esskay 1y agoI've not looked at it in a few months but fairly sure its not pirated, its just online streams of FTA channels. All the UK ones for example are are just the UK's free to air broadcasters and someones figured out the urls to the feeds they use on their websites and apps. Lots of the US and CA ones look to be the same sort of situation. You'll find most wont work without a VPN as they are geo blocked.
- phantomathkg 1y agoFree to air in UK does not mean free to the whole world. For example BBC/Channel 4/Channel 5 are geofenced to UK only.
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- NKosmatos 1y agoThere’s also Radio Garden https://radio.garden/ https://radio.garden/
- gosub100 1y agoHN brought me there over 5 years ago and I've been using it regularly ever since.
- vivzkestrel 1y agomaybe we need a podcast.garden now
- dkh 1y agoMost [public] podcasts are registered in Apple's podcast registry, which is what most podcast apps with a global search/discovery feature queries, and why these apps can all turn up the same podcasts. There are also things like https://podbay.fm https://podbay.fm that put give it a more general web frontend. I suppose that the not public podcasts could be aggregated somewhere, but I'm less of a fan of that, and there's also some technical reasons why this would be more difficult than it was to aggregate these IPTV HLS streams. Being able to view them by country or whatever is interesting, though I think perhaps less so for podcasts than something like live news, but not a bad idea
- rom16384 1y agoYou may find the Podcast Index [1] project interesting, it tries to create an open index of all podcasts, and currently has 4.5M podcasts. It has a downloadable sqlite database and an API. [1] https://podcastindex.org/ https://podcastindex.org/
- dkh 1y agoHaha, the most recently uploaded/indexed "episodes" of a "podcast" on this site are individual songs from what looks like a podcast feed of a radio show. Just kind of funny Very cool project
- blueflow 1y agoGo to Germany, select "KIKA" and you can see the depressed bread.
- j_french 1y agoI have so many questions. Why is the bread depressed? Why is it in space? Why is the soundtrack so cool?
- ternus 1y agoThe bread is the mascot of the TV channel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_das_Brot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_das_Brot -- an article surprisingly full of gems such as this: > The reason for Bernd's depression was revealed in the 85th episode of the series. In his telling: "[...] A long, long time ago I fell in love with a beautiful, slim baguette. She was so unbelievably charming and funny. But unfortunately, my affection was in vain. She only had eyes for this perfect stranger, a multigrain bread. It was so devastating. [...] My heart has been a dry clump of flour ever since." Late at night (i.e. right now in the US), KiKA plays a "late night loop" starring Bernd.
- netsharc 1y ago1 month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43205563 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43205563
- singularity2001 1y agoFor me Germany and Estland are confused de/ee !?
- xobs 1y ago"KIKA" just shows an infinitely-looping 10-second clip of a sign swinging that translates to "Unfortunately, you can only watch the current video if you are in Germany."
- DecentShoes 1y agoIt's cool, but are you not worried about a huge lawsuit from rebroadcasting copyrighted content without a licence?
- dkh 1y agoMy guess is this was launched to get some attention or as some sort of proof-of-concept or whatever, and that it perhaps is not intended to be a sustainable platform, at least not in this form. And they probably assume if there's a problem, they'll just get a cease & desist notice and have to take the channel down (which is probably true). Definitely has to be a bit of a #yolo project launch though. Other concerns as well including GDPR compliance
- hei-lima 1y agoJust a great project!
- mvdtnz 1y agoCool project. Unfortunately I get infinite spinners on all non-Youtube videos in Firefox. Works in Chrome.
- lxgr 1y agoWorks for me in Firefox!
- mcflubbins 1y agoChecks out. Clicked on a channel in the Philippines and immediately had to sit through 5 soap related commercials, precisely what I recall from my time there.
- airstrike 1y agoSame here. Clicked Brazil, SBT and they're showing Chaves (El Chavo del Ocho) reruns, just like they were 30 years ago...
- ThatMedicIsASpy 1y agoI have a hard time recalling the last time I watched ads outside of Cyberpunk 2077 where I watched, listened and actively search for them in my first hours. But now I want to actively want to know how ads look all around the world.
- mcflubbins 1y agoI made some mix tapes a couple years ago for my wife (Filipino) with some of her favorite Filipino artists. I searched for radio bumpers and commercials from the stations we used to hear on the radio and in taxis to put in-between every couple songs as if it were a radio station it was so much fun and made her feel like home, reminded me of my years spent there too!
- DaiPlusPlus 1y ago> had to sit through 5 soap related commercials Not the skin-lightening kind, I hope? Those ads were... odd. I spent the late-1990s in Manila, for me it was Jollibee ads, and an oddly recurrent anti-corruption PSA which, I think, made corruption look quite appealing, actually.
- lawgimenez 1y agoSkin lightening products are famous here for social status. It’s so fake.
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- financetechbro 1y agoTIL There’s a Mr. Beast channel in the US
- trompetenaccoun 1y agoIs there? Or is that just his Youtube channel on a loop?
- dkh 1y agoIt's both. It's a FAST channel being used by I think Pluto.TV and Roku to give them another "live 24/7" "channel" for their catalogs, but underneath is just looping playlist of YouTube content. That's actually what a huge number of the channels on this site are, and I do wish they were labeled and filterable that way.
- alabhyajindal 1y agoWonderful! Works surprisingly well!
- thomasfromcdnjs 1y agoLove it
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- onionisafruit 1y agoCrazy that I can change channels on this faster than on youtube tv
- exogeny 1y agoWe've got -- nothing better to do! Than watch TV! And have a couple of brews!
- hombre_fatal 1y agoCan someone explain the economics of this? So, there are a bunch of open http endpoints serving free video feeds and they don't care about bandwidth? It's not like radio where you broadcast it and people passively receive the signal. This is a great service for language practice, though. Wish it had a login + favorites system.
- hsuduebc2 1y agoI wouldn't they don't care. It just wasn't problem for them. But basically yes. I blindly checked few of the TV's listed for my country and every one of them had live stream on Google publicly available somewhere. But is this really a concern for them? If they are making money from advertisement this just add them justification for higher price of an ad.
- dkh 1y agoThey aren't making money from this, but they are likely operating at a scale where they either don't notice if 1000 nerds on the internet are piggybacking their feeds, or don't care all that much. It is not likely useful to them in negotiating ad rates, at least not with how advertising is usually bought/sold, because the broadcaster has almost no information (if any) about anyone watching these streams, including if it's even a person. It's possible they could fold it into a more general ad package that places a lot of weight on total view/viewers numbers, but that is a lot less common these days, and when it is done, the rates tend to be much lower
- hsuduebc2 1y agoYea I meant it is an argument they can use but not a good metric at all. I agree that mostly they just do not care. This tool only means that they'll get more international views from curious people but in the end it means nothing.
- Mindwipe 1y agoIt doesn't even really mean that, the ones that care are already geofiltered. Most of these feeds only work in their country of origin.
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- derac 1y agoThis is awesome. If the site owner is reading this, favorites would be cool.
- cbozeman 1y agoAs someone mentioned, each channel has it's own unique URL. Create a Bookmarks / Favorites folder in your browser of choice and just add.
- totetsu 1y agoThere are some conspicuous erasures of countries on the data used to make this map.
- joshuaturner 1y agoI was really hoping to catch up on Real Housewives of Vatican City
- totetsu 1y agoand Survivor Palau. I noticed New Zealand was missing and Island, Cyprus had no Türkiye on it, Gaza was part of Israel, etcetc
- sexy_seedbox 1y agoHow to select Hong Kong?
- philsnow 1y agohttps://tv.garden/hk https://tv.garden/hk
- cbozeman 1y agoThanks to this website I learned that ABC 25 Waco TV (KXXV) has some incredibly good interlude music.
- abhishekY495 1y agoClicked on a channel and it started playing the video pretty quickly. There is also https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv but your UI is much better.
- matt3210 1y agoVery nice! nit: country label appears under the mouse. Edge Browser, Mac
- pleyr 1y agothis is very clean.. hi from Pleyr, https://pleyr.net/ https://pleyr.net/
- morsch 1y agoAn option to sort stations by (some reasonable measure of) popularity instead of alphabetically would be nice.
- genewitch 1y agoSo, all China and India for 16 pages?
- morsch 1y agoI was thinking within a country. But sure, that would make more sense than only alphabetical sorting for the global listings as well. Hadn't even noticed those. If you wanted -- and you had the data, which you probably don't -- you could make the sorting criteria the share of viewers (ie. percentage as opposed to absolute numbers), that way countries with unusually large audiences wouldn't always appear at the top. Though that comes with its own issues.
- jonathanlydall 1y agoPretty cool overall. On South Africa some of its listings are radio stations "broadcasting" over YouTube.
- devnexus16 1y agoIntriguing concept! Combining TV with virtual world exploration opens up fascinating possibilities. The demo is impressive, but I'm curious about plans for content beyond scenic walks. Interactive experiences? Educational journeys? With the right partnerships and creative direction, this could become a compelling new medium for immersive storytelling.
- temp0826 1y agoFeels like I got an inter-dimensional cable box from Rick&Morty
- netsharc 1y agoIsn't that what TikTok is, or Instagram real? Swipe up and it's something completely different. Then again, the "algorithm"(TM) is geared to showing you what captures your attention in order to keep you watching and get those ad impressions out of you, so the videos end up being very same. Also it's curious, a few days after that hurrican/flooding in a few months ago, a lot of the videos being shown were about houses being swept away in water. A few days ago a lot of the videos were of water falling off infinity pools and that collapsing skyscraper in Thailand (RIP).
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- pete1302 1y agoI spent hours watching French Drama, I don't know any French.
- yard2010 1y agoSame but with Indian drama. I found out that matlab in hindu means "what do you mean?". I wonder what "numpy" means..
- memalign 1y agoHeck yeah, they have ReBoot: https://tv.garden/us/qRH5QbLVuLvQQR https://tv.garden/us/qRH5QbLVuLvQQR
- londons_explore 1y agoReally notable that all the youtube feeds work and load fast, whereas all the other feeds are 50/50 if they work or not, and if they do load they're slow, laggy and bad quality. Props to the youtube engineering team I guess!
- aa-jv 1y agoNot to be confused with https://radio.garden/ https://radio.garden/ ... must resist urge to make Buggles joke ..
- ctm92 1y agoThe name is ironic, as there is a german TV show called Fernsehgarten (basically television garden). It's broadcasted live every sunday morning during summer season on ZDF, basically it's a outdoor studio with music and other things around a topic every week. Mostly targeted to elderly people, but funny to watch every once in a while. You can even go there in person for quite cheap
- whoisstan 1y agoThe name is probably inspired by TV Garden from Nam June Paik from the 70s
- nkanaev 1y agoChecks his own country: "No channels available." Damn, even Afghanistan has a dozen available.
- bookofjoe 1y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43505838 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43505838
- INTPenis 1y agoSo it's only getting videos from youtube that claim to be from Sweden. But very few of them actually were. The very first images I saw was a racoon, not common here at all.
- jccalhoun 1y agoPretty fun. Reminds me of the 90s when my parents had a big satellite dish and I would spend time going from satellite to satellite seeing what was being broadcast in the clear. There's something about discovering something weird that you never knew existed. There are some b-movie channels on roku that i love just because I never know what kind of weird movie they will play I do wish there was some kind of Shazam for movies/tv shows because there are times when I flip on one of those in the middle of a movie, get into it, and then have the hardest time trying to find the name of it.
- danvoell 1y ago"Shazam for movies/tv shows" - We watched a Spanish Game Show while abroad this spring break. There was a team that kept winning and my family got behind them. I returned home and figured we could jump right back in and watch it remotely. After searching for hours, I'm not sure the show ever existed and might actually be a figment of my imagination even though we have photos, clips from it, and even know the name of the show. There could definitely be a need for this. Maybe shazam meets low cost pay per view for "low demand licensed content".
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- Chihuahua0633 1y agoIs there some way to find a stream url to toss into VLC - if you wanted to easily watch this on your actual TV?
- geostupid 1y agoThis is fantastic! One of my favorite things about traveling is experiencing their media--it gives me that same feeling. Also, as someone that studied Geography extensively, it's an excellent review in that respect as well. One can quickly jump from one place to another. Bonus points for using a globe, and not a map!