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Given the way accessibility is often an afterthought at best, this is a really good question. Would love to hear about some of the experiences that screen read

Given the way accessibility is often an afterthought at best, this is a really good question. Would love to hear about some of the experiences that screen reader users and other folks who use assistive technology have with things like getting caught in the CloudFlare filters and other “human” verification systems. It seems easy to get caught in the net of “bot detection” as a normal user, and some of the verification steps don’t always seem very accessible.

michaelbuckbee 1y ago
Not quite what you're asking for, but Tor users have long complained that Cloudflare basically makes it unusable (asking for complicated captchas on each page of a site, etc.)
- binaryturtle 1y ago
  I don't even use Tor, just an older Firefox. I'm no longer able to visit any site that uses that Cloudflare "human check". Once I whitelist Cloudflare in uBlock and reload to see the captcha the browser starts to busy-loop. Even closing the tab won't fix that. I have to hard kill the whole thing. I consider it straight malware whatever they do.
  - genewitch 1y ago
    I never let Firefox update when it wants to. I update it after Windows does so that everything breaks at the same time. I noticed that as my Firefox version gets two versions behind, I start hitting Cloudflare human test every single site I go to. Obnoxious. I like the extensions I have, thanks. It's my computer. It's the same fingerprint it was 5 minutes ago, and last week.
    - johnea 1y ago
      Sounds like it's finally time to abandon windows... All efforts to force users into ever newer versions of browsers are primarily motivated by goggle's ever increasing surveillance in each new version.
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  - Rastonbury 1y ago
    Yeah for all the marketing speak on that page about machine learning bot detection, just a browser version and VPN is enough to induce a false positive
  - calvinmorrison 1y ago
    same problem. cant get into my bank, cant get into my email, stuck in redirect loops with gmail kicking me out, remember my device doesnt work. I love firefox for 15 + years... but i have to quit

michaelbuckbee 1y ago

Not quite what you're asking for, but Tor users have long complained that Cloudflare basically makes it unusable (asking for complicated captchas on each page of a site, etc.)

binaryturtle 1y ago
I don't even use Tor, just an older Firefox. I'm no longer able to visit any site that uses that Cloudflare "human check". Once I whitelist Cloudflare in uBlock and reload to see the captcha the browser starts to busy-loop. Even closing the tab won't fix that. I have to hard kill the whole thing. I consider it straight malware whatever they do.
- genewitch 1y ago
  I never let Firefox update when it wants to. I update it after Windows does so that everything breaks at the same time. I noticed that as my Firefox version gets two versions behind, I start hitting Cloudflare human test every single site I go to. Obnoxious. I like the extensions I have, thanks. It's my computer. It's the same fingerprint it was 5 minutes ago, and last week.
  - johnea 1y ago
    Sounds like it's finally time to abandon windows... All efforts to force users into ever newer versions of browsers are primarily motivated by goggle's ever increasing surveillance in each new version.
- deleted 1y ago
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- Rastonbury 1y ago
  Yeah for all the marketing speak on that page about machine learning bot detection, just a browser version and VPN is enough to induce a false positive
- calvinmorrison 1y ago
  same problem. cant get into my bank, cant get into my email, stuck in redirect loops with gmail kicking me out, remember my device doesnt work. I love firefox for 15 + years... but i have to quit