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Its sort of crazy to think about how big tech companies have a smaller and smaller window to be a "fun" and interesting story/idea. Facebook was pretty fun for

Its sort of crazy to think about how big tech companies have a smaller and smaller window to be a "fun" and interesting story/idea. Facebook was pretty fun for a bit, google was obviously an idea factory for a while and even stuff like the doodles were a big deal. Stuff like Uber and AirBnB were controversial at some levels but still generally "game changers" in specific industries and it was fun/interesting to be early adopters. OpenAI was under the radar IRT public consciousness pre-gpt3.5.... we all had fun w/ chatGPT... and then immediately OAI starts generating headlines that are not fun/inventive/quirky. A lot of regulatory stuff, governments around the world. Instant globalization + general horror.

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interactivecode 2y ago
There is so much "fun" to be had without new regulation shooting you down immediately. It's just that when you (or your niche) gets to a large enough size where it (might) impact enough people negatively. Regulations are needed. And if you ask me very sensible. OpenAI has about 400 million weekly users at the moment. Can you imagine the regulations you would have to comply with if you want to serve 400 million sandwiches? or just run a parking lot for 400 million cars or literally anything else.
- enriquec 2y ago
  IMO - this mentality kills good* innovation.
  - baconbrand 2y ago
    Innovation is not an inherently good thing.
  - madsbuch 2y ago
    Yep, let's wing serving 400 million sandwiches - whatever the risk that the US population dies of salmonella or listeria. Anyways, one of the things about growing up is realizing that there is more to the world than just innovation.
    - enriquec 2y ago
      I think one of the things about growing up is accepting personal responsibility and not looking at the government/daddy to protect you from everything. If I sell 400 million skateboards - do we need a regulatory board to approve skateboard design changes? I'm sure millions of people make unregulated sandwiches at home just fine.
      - madsbuch 2y ago
        There is a concept I'd recommend you to get familiar with: Systemic risk. Nobody really cares about you and your sandwich. But whenever we introduce single point of risk into the society these needs to be managed. Fair enough, you are personally responsible and don't eat the sandwich. The rest of the US was not. - at least you retain your right to claim "What did I say".
      - danlivingston 2y ago
        Yeah, making sure there's a standard of cleanliness or food safety in restaurants seems kind of pointless, right? If the consumer eats that food, it's their fault for sure.
        rsoto2 2y ago
        I mean, I didn't get poisoned my whole life! Let's get rid of all the regulations obviously they are useless.
        cylemons 2y ago
        Well, even without regulations, restaurants that poison their customers will have bad reputation and go out of business. So the market incentivizes cost cutting but not too much of it.
      - meigwilym 2y ago
        The market doesn't protect all those kids who were maimed or died trying out your regulation-free skateboard. A basic level of safety might mean that your skateboards sell faster, now that parents don't have to risk the health of their offspring.
fsndz 2y ago
DeepSeek Really Shattered OpenAI to Its Core. It’s funny because a few weeks back, in response to Elon Musk’s attempt to buy OpenAI, Sam Altman responded: ‘I wish he would just compete by building a better product.’ https://medium.com/thoughts-on-machine-learning/openai-is-going-for-regulatory-capture-98dae5c29f9b https://medium.com/thoughts-on-machine-learning/openai-is-go...

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interactivecode 2y ago

There is so much "fun" to be had without new regulation shooting you down immediately. It's just that when you (or your niche) gets to a large enough size where it (might) impact enough people negatively. Regulations are needed. And if you ask me very sensible. OpenAI has about 400 million weekly users at the moment. Can you imagine the regulations you would have to comply with if you want to serve 400 million sandwiches? or just run a parking lot for 400 million cars or literally anything else.

enriquec 2y ago
IMO - this mentality kills good* innovation.
- baconbrand 2y ago
  Innovation is not an inherently good thing.
- madsbuch 2y ago
  Yep, let's wing serving 400 million sandwiches - whatever the risk that the US population dies of salmonella or listeria. Anyways, one of the things about growing up is realizing that there is more to the world than just innovation.
  - enriquec 2y ago
    I think one of the things about growing up is accepting personal responsibility and not looking at the government/daddy to protect you from everything. If I sell 400 million skateboards - do we need a regulatory board to approve skateboard design changes? I'm sure millions of people make unregulated sandwiches at home just fine.
    - madsbuch 2y ago
      There is a concept I'd recommend you to get familiar with: Systemic risk. Nobody really cares about you and your sandwich. But whenever we introduce single point of risk into the society these needs to be managed. Fair enough, you are personally responsible and don't eat the sandwich. The rest of the US was not. - at least you retain your right to claim "What did I say".
    - danlivingston 2y ago
      Yeah, making sure there's a standard of cleanliness or food safety in restaurants seems kind of pointless, right? If the consumer eats that food, it's their fault for sure.
      - rsoto2 2y ago
        I mean, I didn't get poisoned my whole life! Let's get rid of all the regulations obviously they are useless.
      - cylemons 2y ago
        Well, even without regulations, restaurants that poison their customers will have bad reputation and go out of business. So the market incentivizes cost cutting but not too much of it.
    - meigwilym 2y ago
      The market doesn't protect all those kids who were maimed or died trying out your regulation-free skateboard. A basic level of safety might mean that your skateboards sell faster, now that parents don't have to risk the health of their offspring.

fsndz 2y ago

DeepSeek Really Shattered OpenAI to Its Core. It’s funny because a few weeks back, in response to Elon Musk’s attempt to buy OpenAI, Sam Altman responded: ‘I wish he would just compete by building a better product.’ https://medium.com/thoughts-on-machine-learning/openai-is-going-for-regulatory-capture-98dae5c29f9b https://medium.com/thoughts-on-machine-learning/openai-is-go...