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Plenty of videos from both sides indicating that Russians are also using starlink inside Ukraine. Less verifiable are claims that Russia relies heavily on it, w

Plenty of videos from both sides indicating that Russians are also using starlink inside Ukraine. Less verifiable are claims that Russia relies heavily on it, with no alternative; while Ukraine at least has some backup communication options available. But how is that so? Why isn't there some whitelisting process for terminals used inside Ukraine? Or, hell, even analyzing the signal should tell starlink roughly what side and how far from the front it is.. That should have been a massive news story, it's been happening for years already. But instead we skip straight to the timeline where all pretense of allyship goes out the window. At least EU space/rocket Industry might get a boost of funding out of this all.

TMWNN 2y ago
> But how is that so? Why isn't there some whitelisting process for terminals used inside Ukraine? Or, hell, even analyzing the signal should tell starlink roughly what side and how far from the front it is.. That should have been a massive news story, it's been happening for years already. It has been a massive news story, with the commensurate 17.5K upvotes and 2500 replies on Reddit all shouting that this is proof that Musk is pro-Russian. In the real world, whitelisting on this scale is very, very hard. Ukraine has decided that having access to it (and it is 110% required for Ukraine to work as a country) is more valuable than the benefit Russia also gets from it. <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40247411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40247411>
- inetknght 2y ago
  > In the real world, whitelisting on this scale is very, very hard. Well, it certainly is with the expertise that Musk and his DOGE can find.
- guelo 2y ago
  Starlink is only 5 years old. How did Ukraine survive before that?
  - TMWNN 2y ago
    Sarcasm is unbecoming in this particular circumstance. My understanding is that right now every single building, company, agency, school, etc. in non-occupied Ukraine has a Starlink dish, even aside from the military use.

TMWNN 2y ago

> But how is that so? Why isn't there some whitelisting process for terminals used inside Ukraine? Or, hell, even analyzing the signal should tell starlink roughly what side and how far from the front it is.. That should have been a massive news story, it's been happening for years already. It has been a massive news story, with the commensurate 17.5K upvotes and 2500 replies on Reddit all shouting that this is proof that Musk is pro-Russian. In the real world, whitelisting on this scale is very, very hard. Ukraine has decided that having access to it (and it is 110% required for Ukraine to work as a country) is more valuable than the benefit Russia also gets from it. <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40247411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40247411>

inetknght 2y ago
> In the real world, whitelisting on this scale is very, very hard. Well, it certainly is with the expertise that Musk and his DOGE can find.
guelo 2y ago
Starlink is only 5 years old. How did Ukraine survive before that?
- TMWNN 2y ago
  Sarcasm is unbecoming in this particular circumstance. My understanding is that right now every single building, company, agency, school, etc. in non-occupied Ukraine has a Starlink dish, even aside from the military use.