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Anything a single human can do, reasoning wise, AI will eventually be able to do. Anything emerging out of a collective of humans interacting and reasoning (or
by sunami-ai 2y ago
Anything a single human can do, reasoning wise, AI will eventually be able to do.
Anything emerging out of a collective of humans interacting and reasoning (or interacting without reasoning or flawed reasoning) the AIs (plural) will eventually be able to do.
Only thing is machine kind does not need sleep, does not get tired, etc, so it will fail to fully emulate human behavior, with all the pros and cons of that for us to benefit from and deal with.
I'm not sure what is the point of a theoretical discussion beyond this.
- mlyle 2y agoSome people (e.g. Penrose) reject this, believing that there's something mystical about human thought-- perhaps a soul, perhaps some quantum magic.
- kazinator 2y agoBut we are working on quantum magic!
- sunami-ai 2y agoAny technology that's advanced enough is indistinguishable from magic, or something along these lines...
- jay_kyburz 2y agoYeah but, so what? Whether or not there is some magic that makes humans super special really has no bearing on whether or not we can make super duper powerful computers that can be given really hard problems. In my view its inevitable that we'll build an AI that is more capable than a human. And that the AI will be able to build better computers, and write better software. That the singularity.
- mlyle 2y agoHis argument is that incompleteness means that humans will always be able to do things that non-quantum machines can't. I don't agree with this view. > In my view its inevitable that we'll build an AI that is more capable than a human. Seems pretty likely, with a big uncertainty on timeframe. > And that the AI will be able to build better computers, and write better software. That the singularity. This could happen, but I don't agree it's an inevitable consequence of the first.
- shmerl 2y agoI'm not sure you have a proof of that to claim there is no point in theoretical discussion. He has a point, that current "AI" isn't conscious and so far there is no indication that it will be. It doesn't mean it can't happen either. Basically we aren't up to "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" so far.
- sunami-ai 2y agoHave you heard of brain organoids? A Google search yields "three-dimensional tissues that mimic the human brain and are grown in a lab" The distinction between natural and what is man-made (aka artificial) is itself artificial. We are learning how to recreate nature, whether from silicon or in 3D tissue or ab initio (google "synthetic life")