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I'm in the U.S. and doing the same. While EU laws don't protect me as well as they would someone on the correct side of the pond, I do still benefit from bette

I'm in the U.S. and doing the same. While EU laws don't protect me as well as they would someone on the correct side of the pond, I do still benefit from better integrity and transparency. Would you be up for making recommendations?

Daril 2y ago
Sure ! Here you can find a list of alternatives : https://european-alternatives.eu/ https://european-alternatives.eu/ I self hosting almost everything, but for a complete suite of services take at look at Infomaniak : https://www.infomaniak.com/en https://www.infomaniak.com/en Protonmail (https://proton.me/mail https://proton.me/mail) or Tutanota (https://tuta.com/ https://tuta.com/) for end-to-end encrypted emails, Filen (https://filen.io/ https://filen.io/) for encrypted Cloud Storage
- omnimus 2y ago
  Filen is becoming pretty awesome not only as worde alternative but as best sync storage period (and its e2e). They dobt have teams/bussines yet but its comming for sure. Infomaniak is great email.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  FYI Proton mail (or, they claim, just the CEO) is pro Trump.
  - zapperdulchen 2y ago
    To me this is a simplification. The CEO applauded a hiring decision. His social media team amplified it. Here’s the tweet: https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 Some have interpreted this as a political signal. The Intercept article provides additional context and takes a more critical view: https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-tru...
svilen_dobrev 2y ago
for plain e-mail, recommend migadu.com (swiss) . They do only that ------ one thing that seems tricky though, is smartphone OS software. Apple + Google is on like 99% of everything. i went few years with Sailfish, all fine.. but they support only 5y+ old devices, for a reason or another.. and i got tired of waiting, and switched to Android. hmmm
- nunez 2y ago
  Fastmail as well. they are Australian.
  - awaythrow999 2y ago
    The AABill hits hard against Australia being a useful jurisdiction alternative to the US. Heck this law has made it impossible to hire any Australian National into security critical positions outside AUS. And the same law made services by fastmail and Atlassian suspect.
- Daril 2y ago
  I bought an used phone and an used tablet supported by LineageOS. I installed e/OS (derived from LineageOS) on the phone and LineageOS on the tablet. The hardware is like new and with "debloated" software it works very well.

Daril 2y ago

Sure ! Here you can find a list of alternatives : https://european-alternatives.eu/ https://european-alternatives.eu/ I self hosting almost everything, but for a complete suite of services take at look at Infomaniak : https://www.infomaniak.com/en https://www.infomaniak.com/en Protonmail (https://proton.me/mail https://proton.me/mail) or Tutanota (https://tuta.com/ https://tuta.com/) for end-to-end encrypted emails, Filen (https://filen.io/ https://filen.io/) for encrypted Cloud Storage

omnimus 2y ago
Filen is becoming pretty awesome not only as worde alternative but as best sync storage period (and its e2e). They dobt have teams/bussines yet but its comming for sure. Infomaniak is great email.
_DeadFred_ 2y ago
FYI Proton mail (or, they claim, just the CEO) is pro Trump.
- zapperdulchen 2y ago
  To me this is a simplification. The CEO applauded a hiring decision. His social media team amplified it. Here’s the tweet: https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 Some have interpreted this as a political signal. The Intercept article provides additional context and takes a more critical view: https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-tru...

svilen_dobrev 2y ago

for plain e-mail, recommend migadu.com (swiss) . They do only that ------ one thing that seems tricky though, is smartphone OS software. Apple + Google is on like 99% of everything. i went few years with Sailfish, all fine.. but they support only 5y+ old devices, for a reason or another.. and i got tired of waiting, and switched to Android. hmmm

nunez 2y ago
Fastmail as well. they are Australian.
- awaythrow999 2y ago
  The AABill hits hard against Australia being a useful jurisdiction alternative to the US. Heck this law has made it impossible to hire any Australian National into security critical positions outside AUS. And the same law made services by fastmail and Atlassian suspect.
Daril 2y ago
I bought an used phone and an used tablet supported by LineageOS. I installed e/OS (derived from LineageOS) on the phone and LineageOS on the tablet. The hardware is like new and with "debloated" software it works very well.