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I am not a Trump supporter and I didn't vote for him, but the fact is that Biden's BLS numbers were always manipulated to portray the former president as succe

I am not a Trump supporter and I didn't vote for him, but the fact is that Biden's BLS numbers were always manipulated to portray the former president as successful. These statistics are unreliable, in addition, the underlying premise of relying on job postings was flawed from the start which was my initial argument. Take a look at this, the previous administration hired hundreds of thousands of gov workers to inflate the employment numbers. https://x.com/VladTheInflator/status/1891600635167981904 https://x.com/VladTheInflator/status/1891600635167981904

senordevnyc 2y ago
Doesn't pass the smell test since the chart for government employees clearly includes more than just Federal. The Federal workforce is about 3mm, but that graph shows 23mm [1], so it clearly can't just be Federal employees. EDIT: here you go, just looking at Federal employees [2]: Jan 2021: 2.89 million Jan 2025: 3.02 million The Federal government added ~130k employees over the four years that Biden was in office, an increase of about 4.4%. During that exact same period, all private employment went from 121 million to 135 million, an increase of about 11%. So Federal employment grew slower under Biden than private employment did. [3] Sources: 1. Total government employees: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USGOVT https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USGOVT 2. Total Federal government employees: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES9091000001 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES9091000001 3. Total private employment: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USPRIV https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USPRIV
- andro_dev 2y ago
  Thanks for the additional information. The thing is the Trump administration is about to fire 200k probationary federal employees meaning they were hired within in the last year or so. These numbers don't add up either.
  - sn9 2y ago
    "A probationary employee is often a recent hire to the agency or *a long-serving employee who was moved or promoted into a new position*. They are put on a "probationary" period that typically lasts for one or two years, though it can be longer at some agencies. It's like a trial period during which the worker and their performance are under heightened scrutiny." source: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/15/nx-s1-5298182/trumps-probationary-workers-federal https://www.npr.org/2025/02/15/nx-s1-5298182/trumps-probatio...
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  Yeah, I know FRED is a legit source, but I have absolutely horrible experiences everytime some internet rando is trying to interpret their charts. Just two random FRED charts with marker ink on them already was sending red flags.

senordevnyc 2y ago

Doesn't pass the smell test since the chart for government employees clearly includes more than just Federal. The Federal workforce is about 3mm, but that graph shows 23mm [1], so it clearly can't just be Federal employees. EDIT: here you go, just looking at Federal employees [2]: Jan 2021: 2.89 million Jan 2025: 3.02 million The Federal government added ~130k employees over the four years that Biden was in office, an increase of about 4.4%. During that exact same period, all private employment went from 121 million to 135 million, an increase of about 11%. So Federal employment grew slower under Biden than private employment did. [3] Sources: 1. Total government employees: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USGOVT https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USGOVT 2. Total Federal government employees: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES9091000001 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES9091000001 3. Total private employment: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USPRIV https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USPRIV

andro_dev 2y ago
Thanks for the additional information. The thing is the Trump administration is about to fire 200k probationary federal employees meaning they were hired within in the last year or so. These numbers don't add up either.
- sn9 2y ago
  "A probationary employee is often a recent hire to the agency or *a long-serving employee who was moved or promoted into a new position*. They are put on a "probationary" period that typically lasts for one or two years, though it can be longer at some agencies. It's like a trial period during which the worker and their performance are under heightened scrutiny." source: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/15/nx-s1-5298182/trumps-probationary-workers-federal https://www.npr.org/2025/02/15/nx-s1-5298182/trumps-probatio...
johnnyanmac 2y ago
Yeah, I know FRED is a legit source, but I have absolutely horrible experiences everytime some internet rando is trying to interpret their charts. Just two random FRED charts with marker ink on them already was sending red flags.