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Why does this one man, then, work for a government bent on ignoring science and denying climate change? I'm just laughing at the idea that the grievances are "p

by c-cube 2y ago

Why does this one man, then, work for a government bent on ignoring science and denying climate change? I'm just laughing at the idea that the grievances are "petty" when the guy is leading a fascist coup right now.

ta8645 2y ago
What does it matter what one man thinks? What does it matter what coup happens if the world ends because of global warming? The only way to think that party politics matters more than doing every single thing we can to fight global warming, with no distractions, is to not truly believe in global warming. Because if you actually believed it, you'd be too terrified to be distracted by party politics.
- senordevnyc 2y ago
  That’s a little like worrying about the roof replacement your house will desperately need in a decade, meanwhile there’s a guy trying to burn your house down right now. Let’s put the fire out, then we can worry about the roof.
  - ta8645 2y ago
    Wrong. What we do TODAY determines what happens in a decade. Global warming is determined by what we do today, even if the final destruction doesn't show up until later. You are literally a climate change denier.
    - zfg 2y ago
      The administration Musk is a part of has suspended leasing and permitting for wind energy projects: https://apnews.com/article/wind-energy-offshore-turbines-trump-executive-order-995a744c3c1a2eddb30cacf50b681f13 https://apnews.com/article/wind-energy-offshore-turbines-tru... It has suspended renewable energy approvals on public lands: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5105492-trump-administration-pauses-renewable-energy-approvals-public-lands-waters/ https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5105492-trump-... And it's quitting the Paris climate agreement so it can "drill, baby, drill": https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20px1e05w0o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20px1e05w0o If you're serious about addressing climate change, you can no longer buy Tesla.
    - senordevnyc 2y ago
      OK. Still going to focus on the arsonist first.
- c-cube 2y ago
  You think that individual choice is the one and only way to fix climate change? The new regime's policy is "drill baby drill". That's a lot more impactful than people electing not to buy a particular brand of electric cars.
- almostgotcaught 2y ago
  > Because if you actually believed it, you'd be too terrified to be distracted by party politics. Weirdest instance of "whataboutism" I've ever seen. Yes pay no attention to eg forthcoming deaths due to withdrawal of pepfar, anti-malarals, etc but do pay attention to the effect of EVs on climate change (don't worry that it's the same guy selling the EVs that's causing the deaths). Like Jesus Christ you really expect people to be convinced by this reasoning?

by c-cube 2y ago

ta8645 2y ago

What does it matter what one man thinks? What does it matter what coup happens if the world ends because of global warming? The only way to think that party politics matters more than doing every single thing we can to fight global warming, with no distractions, is to not truly believe in global warming. Because if you actually believed it, you'd be too terrified to be distracted by party politics.

senordevnyc 2y ago
That’s a little like worrying about the roof replacement your house will desperately need in a decade, meanwhile there’s a guy trying to burn your house down right now. Let’s put the fire out, then we can worry about the roof.
- ta8645 2y ago
  Wrong. What we do TODAY determines what happens in a decade. Global warming is determined by what we do today, even if the final destruction doesn't show up until later. You are literally a climate change denier.
  - zfg 2y ago
    The administration Musk is a part of has suspended leasing and permitting for wind energy projects: https://apnews.com/article/wind-energy-offshore-turbines-trump-executive-order-995a744c3c1a2eddb30cacf50b681f13 https://apnews.com/article/wind-energy-offshore-turbines-tru... It has suspended renewable energy approvals on public lands: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5105492-trump-administration-pauses-renewable-energy-approvals-public-lands-waters/ https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5105492-trump-... And it's quitting the Paris climate agreement so it can "drill, baby, drill": https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20px1e05w0o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20px1e05w0o If you're serious about addressing climate change, you can no longer buy Tesla.
  - senordevnyc 2y ago
    OK. Still going to focus on the arsonist first.
c-cube 2y ago
You think that individual choice is the one and only way to fix climate change? The new regime's policy is "drill baby drill". That's a lot more impactful than people electing not to buy a particular brand of electric cars.
almostgotcaught 2y ago
> Because if you actually believed it, you'd be too terrified to be distracted by party politics. Weirdest instance of "whataboutism" I've ever seen. Yes pay no attention to eg forthcoming deaths due to withdrawal of pepfar, anti-malarals, etc but do pay attention to the effect of EVs on climate change (don't worry that it's the same guy selling the EVs that's causing the deaths). Like Jesus Christ you really expect people to be convinced by this reasoning?