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The President has unitary power over the executive, within the bounds set by congress.

by mjfl 2y ago

guelo 2y ago
trump really doesn't care about the bounds set by congress or anyone else
- mjfl 2y ago
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  - labster 2y ago
    It’s not moral panic, it’s because Trump is reducing legitimacy and stability of the government. Killing foreign civilians is normal, locking everyone out of a government job with zero notice is not.
    - aqueueaqueue 2y ago
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      - mjfl 2y ago
        deeply ironic
        labster 2y ago
        COIN sucks, civilians get killed, the closest thing to a fortress in modern warfare is a city. The US has a better record than most in protecting civilians but it’s impossible to save everyone.
        immibis 2y ago
        The US could save people by not starting wars. And by quickly finishing wars other people started (that means Ukraine) rather than drawing them out as long as possible to maximize shareholder profits from weapon sales.
    - mjfl 2y ago
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      - labster 2y ago
        Bro you’ve already been flagkilled above for personal attacks, and you’re still at it
        mjfl 2y ago
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- block_dagger 2y ago
  In a functioning government, it shouldn’t matter if the president cares or not. The limits on each branch should be enforceable and enforced.
  - gwd 2y ago
    In a functioning democracy, the guardrails last until the person trying to break them leaves office, and then that person is not elected again; and if they break laws in office, they are convicted of them. Laws of nature don't care what you believe: if everyone in the country thinks COVID is a myth, that won't stop COVID from killing people. Human laws -- "What is the law?" or "Who is the king?" aren't like that. Human laws literally are, "What everyone thinks is true". The chiefs at USAID told Musk he couldn't have access. The President told the chiefs they were fired. The chiefs believed themselves to be fired, so they were fired. What else could they have done? They could have called the police or the FBI, and reported illegal attempted access of classified systems. The police could have then arrested Musk or his people (or at least threatened to do so). But would they have done so? Wouldn't they have reasonably believed that such behavior would lead to their losing their jobs? Maybe in 2016 they would have believed that allowing access to classified materials would eventually land them in hot water, and that standing up to the president would eventually lead to them being vindicated. But not now -- any reasonable person now would predict that standing up to the president would lead to them being fired (and possibly have other vindictive punishiments applied), with no recourse; while giving in would certainly be overlooked. The People voted to re-elect a known authoritarian with no respect for the rule of law or democracy. I don't see how any democratic system can withstand that.

The President has unitary power over the executive, within the bounds set by congress.

by mjfl 2y ago

The President has unitary power over the executive, within the bounds set by congress.

guelo 2y ago

trump really doesn't care about the bounds set by congress or anyone else

mjfl 2y ago
[flagged]
- labster 2y ago
  It’s not moral panic, it’s because Trump is reducing legitimacy and stability of the government. Killing foreign civilians is normal, locking everyone out of a government job with zero notice is not.
  - aqueueaqueue 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - mjfl 2y ago
      deeply ironic
      - labster 2y ago
        COIN sucks, civilians get killed, the closest thing to a fortress in modern warfare is a city. The US has a better record than most in protecting civilians but it’s impossible to save everyone.
        immibis 2y ago
        The US could save people by not starting wars. And by quickly finishing wars other people started (that means Ukraine) rather than drawing them out as long as possible to maximize shareholder profits from weapon sales.
  - mjfl 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - labster 2y ago
      Bro you’ve already been flagkilled above for personal attacks, and you’re still at it
      - mjfl 2y ago
        [flagged]
block_dagger 2y ago
In a functioning government, it shouldn’t matter if the president cares or not. The limits on each branch should be enforceable and enforced.
- gwd 2y ago
  In a functioning democracy, the guardrails last until the person trying to break them leaves office, and then that person is not elected again; and if they break laws in office, they are convicted of them. Laws of nature don't care what you believe: if everyone in the country thinks COVID is a myth, that won't stop COVID from killing people. Human laws -- "What is the law?" or "Who is the king?" aren't like that. Human laws literally are, "What everyone thinks is true". The chiefs at USAID told Musk he couldn't have access. The President told the chiefs they were fired. The chiefs believed themselves to be fired, so they were fired. What else could they have done? They could have called the police or the FBI, and reported illegal attempted access of classified systems. The police could have then arrested Musk or his people (or at least threatened to do so). But would they have done so? Wouldn't they have reasonably believed that such behavior would lead to their losing their jobs? Maybe in 2016 they would have believed that allowing access to classified materials would eventually land them in hot water, and that standing up to the president would eventually lead to them being vindicated. But not now -- any reasonable person now would predict that standing up to the president would lead to them being fired (and possibly have other vindictive punishiments applied), with no recourse; while giving in would certainly be overlooked. The People voted to re-elect a known authoritarian with no respect for the rule of law or democracy. I don't see how any democratic system can withstand that.