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NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites
- 1970-01-01 2y agoMaybe I'm out of touch, but aren't women under the 'I' in DEI hires? They are a sub-target of DEI and are not exclusively being targeted?
- spamizbad 2y agoGlad to know my tax dollars are getting spent on the new flavor of virtue signaling. Insane this was some super high priority.
- nessbot 2y agoI never, and I mean NEVER, want to hear someone talk about "cancel culture" of the left ever again.
- briandear 2y ago[flagged]
- TehCorwiz 2y agoThe point of making these traits visible is because there's a loooooong history of white men monopolizing and PREVENTING minorities and women from participating. Or, even worse white men taking credit for the work done by women and minorities.
- everybodyknows 2y ago"Accessibility" is on the list. Isn't the physical reality of needing a wheelchair ramp or scaleable web pages highly "relevant"?
- spacemadness 2y agoDidn’t Elon just cancel r/whitepeopletwitter?
- subjectsigma 2y agoI’m someone who was, uh, skeptical of the DEI stuff. One of my biggest complaints was that it seemed to be much ado about nothing. Re-writing laws and policies to fill them with fluff. This is EXACTLY the same thing, it is 100% virtue signaling and we are burning so much time, money, and goodwill on fucking bullshit nonsense Meanwhile the economy is in shambles, the executive branch is systematically destroying the rest of the government, and China and Russia grow ever stronger and ever more disdainful of us I would elect a black trans president in a heartbeat if I thought they could win the inevitable conflict over Taiwan. It IS an existential threat and the most immediate one meaning it is the HIGHEST PRIORITY And before anyone starts pointing fingers I did not vote for Trump in any election
- briandear 2y agoSo if DEI language was bad, then correcting it should be a good idea.
- elsonrodriguez 2y agoIt isn't quite the same thing. There is a difference between trying to empower historically marginalized groups, and trying to re-subjugate historically marginalized groups. Improving the opportunities available to people tends to improve economic productivity, so it's hard to argue it is a total waste of money. On the other hand, removing mentions or attempts to improve inclusion of these groups in the face of rising racism and sexism has no real upside unless you're a racist or misogynist. Purges of this sort don't have any real economic motivations, it's pure ideology. One was more of an investment, the other is more destruction. Of course while the DEI scrubbing is dangerous to just some people, the scrubbing of climate-related language is just genocidal.
- tivert 2y ago> It isn't quite the same thing. There is a difference between trying to empower historically marginalized groups, and trying to re-subjugate historically marginalized groups. Not really. It's all language games. This is just the mirror image of the liberal conceit they can magically change reality by forcing people to use different words or over-elevating some story (old or new) for ideological reasons. The lesson from this is that it's all stupid, not just my-side's version, and it should stop.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoThis whole administration is a (very bad) joke. America was fun while it lasted. I encourage everyone to read this: https://archive.is/g6ElI https://archive.is/g6ElI The parallels are staggering.
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- briandear 2y agoDo you know how much the FAA spent renaming “cockpit” and changing Notice to Airmen to Notice to Air Missions in all FAA publications? In the midst of a profound controller shortage, the FAA spent millions on changing words. If people want to criticize the current changes as wasting money, then it’s intellectually dishonest not to call out other agencies such as the FAA for their nonsense.
- rich_sasha 2y agoWhat was "cockpit" renamed to?
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoFlight deck. Also it was just a recommendation as far as my searching can find, for example https://www.nationalreview.com/news/faa-panel-recommends-changing-terms-cockpit-and-manmade-to-gender-neutral-equivalents/ https://www.nationalreview.com/news/faa-panel-recommends-cha... This summary of a 2024 FAA re-authorization has the word 'cockpit' 6 times, so I'm dubious that much was done with that recommendation.
- TehCorwiz 2y agoThat's a highly biased source. I recommend the WaPo article it links to or even the report itself I've linked below. The relevant part is on pages 108 through 135, so ~27 pages out of 217, most of which is title cards, references, and graphs. The document itself uses "cockpit" repeatedly throughout, so these suggestions weren't proactively adopted. EDIT: Fixed link, https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/faa-s-drone-advisory-commitee-report-on-gender-neutral-language/453134fc-1e0f-4209-947b-ec84f019e086/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/faa-s-drone-advisory-...
- verdverm 2y agoWaPo lost my trust when Bezos stepped in and over the editorial process. It is just another billionaire owned bully pulpit now
- briandear 2y agoMentions of the terms, not the people themselves. What difference does it make what gender or heritage a person has? Shouldn’t it be about science?
- account42 2y ago[flagged]
- nessbot 2y agoCare to explain how so?
- RankingMember 2y agoAbsurd, comic book villain activity. Who/what does this help?
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoFascists. It helps fascists.
- 1970-01-01 2y agoHow does it help them?
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoIt's intentional othering. Watch this video: https://graphics.social/@metin/113865450624948092 https://graphics.social/@metin/113865450624948092 We knew what to do about fascists at one point. We have forgotten.
- 1970-01-01 2y agoYou've conflated fascists with the anti-DEI movement. NASA employees are still free to live together, work together, free to vote, free to say what they please and go to their own churches.
- lawn 2y agoThe road to fascism is taken by many small steps. This is merely one step in a much larger picture.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoYou've bought into the fascist's narrative.
- spacemadness 2y agoI don't think you're pulling the wool over anyones eyes but nice try anyway. If you really do believe this, then perhaps you should read up on how fascism works. You know the whole "first they came for X and I did nothing"? That's what that's about.
- TehCorwiz 2y agoEvery time they say they're removing "DEI", they really mean they're implementing segregation. Stop sugar coating it. They're trying to erase minorities and women from any mention. That's just the first step.
- lawn 2y agoAnd instantly flagged, of course.
- 1970-01-01 2y agoAs it should be! https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Off%2DTopic%3A%20Most%20stories%20about%20politics https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Off...
- spacemadness 2y agoSeems like an interesting new phenomenon to me.
- ASalazarMX 2y agoTL;DR: > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. There's a gray area here, because we are obviously interested in what NASA does, but the action is political.
- moribvndvs 2y ago> harassment-free experience for everyone Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.
- splitrocket 2y agoTolerance is not suicide pact, nor is it a moral imperative. Tolerance is a peace treaty, and only extends to those who participate. Tolerance is an agreement to live in peace, not an agreement to be peaceful no matter the conduct of others. The Paradox of Tolerance: Karl Popper
- rich_sasha 2y agoI'm not familiar with US employment laws (if it's a thing). In Europe, if given such instructions, the employee could likely refuse to comply. Upon the likely firing, they can easily contest the decision at an employment tribunal, and likely win, regardless of who is president. In the US, I suppose it would be GTFO, and even more so as the employee is likely a H1B visa holder.
- votepaunchy 2y ago“Other than extremely rare exceptions, you must be a U.S. citizen in order to work for NASA as a civil service employee.” https://www.nasa.gov/careers/how-to-apply https://www.nasa.gov/careers/how-to-apply