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> Why else would people want to call that a Nazi salute when it is so far from the real thing? If you ask "why do they want to call it that" instead of "why do

> Why else would people want to call that a Nazi salute when it is so far from the real thing? If you ask "why do they want to call it that" instead of "why do they call it that" you're already not asking in good faith. > It is such a strong accusation to make I would call it an observation rather than an accusation. "you only see it because you want to see it", now that is an accusation, one you have no argument for other than what could be considered a skill issue ("can't find any other reason") and against nobody can defend themselves. > similar motions are so easy and common Show me a similar motion that is common. And then there's Musk's support of the AfD, and how he's calling everyone who doesn't think he's funny a "leftist extremist". He, in word and deed, is a fascist. The salute doesn't even add anything meaningful. It still is that salute however.

Jensson 2y ago
> Show me a similar motion that is common. Musk just showed it there. Fascist loved their stiffness, by tilting his head and curving his body like that it is clearly not a fascist salute, if you look at photos of people doing it they wouldn't disgrace Hitler by doing it like that. > If you ask "why do they want to call it that" instead of "why do they call it that" you're already not asking in good faith. Ok you are right, I should have assumed you were ignorant instead of malicious, which I started out with. But when you said that you want to see it as a Nazi salute even when evidence that it wasn't, then it there isn't any other option left. You wont find footage of Nazis doing the salute like that, since they didn't. And Hitler did his own versions that was just waving back, that doesn't mean that waving is a Hitler salute. But you see everyone else there standing stiffly and straight, not at all Like Musk. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-J00282%2C_Berlin%2C_Hitler_im_Sportpalast.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Bundesar... > And then there's Musk's support of the AfD, and how he's calling everyone who doesn't think he's funny a "leftist extremist". He, in word and deed, is a fascist. The salute doesn't even add anything meaningful. It still is that salute however. So you were already biased into seeing Musk as a Nazi, that makes you a terrible judge of whether this is a Nazi salute. This answers my question.
- computerthings 2y ago
  > Musk just showed it there. That's circular reasoning. So no. The rest is just smearing me in this weirdly stilted way that seems to go with this territory.
  - Jensson 2y ago
    That question warranted that level of answer, throwing out your heart to the masses is a very common gesture. That he did the throwing motion with his upper body shows that is what he did, not the salute. Imagine the military salute, but you change it by curving your body and tilting your head, now its no longer the military salute. Same thing applies to nazi salute. Trying to see it anyway is just bias speaking. Edit: And if you ask the experts, ADL, they say it wasn't a nazi salute. Since Musk is an antisemitic Nazi according to you, so someone ADL would be very biased against, we there have strong evidence it wasn't. So I just wondered why you rejected such strong evidence against your assertion that it was a nazi salute. But now I know.
ConspiracyFact 2y ago
>I would call it an observation rather than an accusation. For crying out loud... The ADL disagrees with you: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/24/world/europe/elon-musk-roman-salute-nazi.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/24/world/europe/elon-musk-ro...
- LocalH 2y ago
  The ADL is not the arbiter of what is and isn't antisemitic

Jensson 2y ago

> Show me a similar motion that is common. Musk just showed it there. Fascist loved their stiffness, by tilting his head and curving his body like that it is clearly not a fascist salute, if you look at photos of people doing it they wouldn't disgrace Hitler by doing it like that. > If you ask "why do they want to call it that" instead of "why do they call it that" you're already not asking in good faith. Ok you are right, I should have assumed you were ignorant instead of malicious, which I started out with. But when you said that you want to see it as a Nazi salute even when evidence that it wasn't, then it there isn't any other option left. You wont find footage of Nazis doing the salute like that, since they didn't. And Hitler did his own versions that was just waving back, that doesn't mean that waving is a Hitler salute. But you see everyone else there standing stiffly and straight, not at all Like Musk. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-J00282%2C_Berlin%2C_Hitler_im_Sportpalast.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Bundesar... > And then there's Musk's support of the AfD, and how he's calling everyone who doesn't think he's funny a "leftist extremist". He, in word and deed, is a fascist. The salute doesn't even add anything meaningful. It still is that salute however. So you were already biased into seeing Musk as a Nazi, that makes you a terrible judge of whether this is a Nazi salute. This answers my question.

computerthings 2y ago
> Musk just showed it there. That's circular reasoning. So no. The rest is just smearing me in this weirdly stilted way that seems to go with this territory.
- Jensson 2y ago
  That question warranted that level of answer, throwing out your heart to the masses is a very common gesture. That he did the throwing motion with his upper body shows that is what he did, not the salute. Imagine the military salute, but you change it by curving your body and tilting your head, now its no longer the military salute. Same thing applies to nazi salute. Trying to see it anyway is just bias speaking. Edit: And if you ask the experts, ADL, they say it wasn't a nazi salute. Since Musk is an antisemitic Nazi according to you, so someone ADL would be very biased against, we there have strong evidence it wasn't. So I just wondered why you rejected such strong evidence against your assertion that it was a nazi salute. But now I know.

ConspiracyFact 2y ago

>I would call it an observation rather than an accusation. For crying out loud... The ADL disagrees with you: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/24/world/europe/elon-musk-roman-salute-nazi.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/24/world/europe/elon-musk-ro...

LocalH 2y ago
The ADL is not the arbiter of what is and isn't antisemitic