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There is a certain irony in this, given that such behaviour (demonstrating that rule of law applies only to the peons) is what has so inflamed the public in sup
by throwaway562if1 2y ago
There is a certain irony in this, given that such behaviour (demonstrating that rule of law applies only to the peons) is what has so inflamed the public in support of Mangione.
- wakawaka28 2y agoOk, show me a non-peon who shot a man in broad daylight and on video and didn't face the law afterward. Edit: I mean on purpose, obviously. Drunk driving hardly counts. (Nobody gets in a car drunk with the intention of hurting anyone, they are usually just trying to get from A to B.) Accidents don't count. We're talking about a comparable action here, something that meets the legal definition of murder and which was also not prosecuted. Deeds from war probably don't count because it doesn't meet the definition of murder under law (although, many war crimes and misdeeds abroad are punished) and soldiers are peons. Cops killing people on duty don't count because they aren't doing it unprovoked (when they do, it is usually prosecuted as murder), and they too are peons. Also, to the people complaining about the edits, sorry I can't reply to 50 comments all saying about the same kind of stuff. I keep hitting the rate limit.
- vintermann 2y agoDick Cheney comes to mind.
- calgoo 2y agoTechnically, Dick Cheney did shot someone in the face, now if it was an accident or not, who knows.
- calgoo 2y agoAs someone else mentioned Duck, I’ll add all the questionable police shootings that gets a slap on the wrist as the Police can be seen as the enforcers of the upper class / c-suite
- o11c 2y agoProbably the most common is drunk-driving "accidents"; cases for those seem to vanish all the time.
- like_any_other 2y agoIf you lower the bar that far from premeditated homicide, then you will get lots of 'peons' that got away with slaps on the wrist too.
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- wqaatwt 2y agoThey ad up though. How many DUI murders are equivalent to a single premeditated murder? But yeah, people in these positions rarely need or want to directly kill someone, they have other means to achieve their goals. Yet many financial or other white collar crimes are usually never prosecuted or result in a slap on the wrist. Obviously they are not the same as murder but still the impact ads up. Defrauding or ruining thousands of people or crashing the global economy is not that far off. Then you have police officers regularly getting away with outright murder and facing no consequences (of course that’s a different class)
- lelandfe 2y agoRight! It was an accident, not murder! Even if they were drunk. And high. And on Valium. And doing 70 in a residential neighborhood. And on a restricted license from a previous DUI... ...Doesn't mean they meant to kill someone! Completely different crimes.
- ethanwillis 2y agoThere has been worse, such as the affluenza case. I don't think peons get away with running over a bunch of people and then claiming they didnt know better because they grew up too rich.
- flawn 2y agoThe thing here is, the non-peon has other means to get the same result, just caring about if he did it or not does not make the situation less worse - same intention, same severity. Not a conspiracy-theory fan or anything but this basic power distribution is obviously skewed for people who are rich(er) and that's a fact.
- stanleykm 2y agoCops do this all the time
- Doctor_Fegg 2y ago> Edit: I mean on purpose, obviously. Drunk driving hardly counts. What?!
- namaria 2y agoAn edit amounting to "not like that" in the first 40 minutes after asking for examples. Grand.
- Doctor_Fegg 2y agoAbsolutely blows my mind that, in 2025, anyone can treat getting in a car drunk and causing death as anything less than premeditated. Motonormativity strikes again, I guess.
- fulafel 2y agoSeems like a thing that happens on trips abroad (war crimes)
- Sebguer 2y agoCIA officer Allen Lawrence Pope flew a B-26 bomber targeting civilian merchant vessels in Indonesia as part of an operation to overthrow the Indonesian president by weakening the economy and inspiring local discontent. He personally claimed to have "enjoyed killing Communists". His plane was shot down, and he was eventually returned to the US, where he continued to fly planes for the CIA. Does this count? Or is the government allowed to indiscriminately kill civilians whenever and wherever they feel like it?
- matsemann 2y agoThe way killing someone while drunk driving is excused by many is abhorrent.
- dragonmost 2y agoAlthough I agree that drunk driving is unacceptable, I doubt those doing it intend on killing someone and thus not what parent is asking.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoBug issue is we have more than enough research and awareness that you can consider drunk driving a "choice" not just some unfortunate accident. You're not relieved of all mental cognition when you're drunk.
- exe34 2y ago> We're talking about a comparable action here, denying healthcare that they already paid for.
- ben_w 2y agoWhy do you think a group called itself "black lives matter"?
- croisillon 2y agoKyle Rittenhouse probably? Has technically faced the law afterwards but to what result.
- ActorNightly 2y agoDon't mistake public support for memes. This is the reason why Kamala was predicted to win. In reality, the "I don't care which candidate is in the office" was the top choice this recent election.
- kfrzcode 2y agoI would argue the 2024 election was quite the opposite. > More than 155 million Americans voted in 2024: 156,302,318 to be exact. That’s the second largest total voter turnout in U.S. history in absolute terms. It is also just the second time that more than 140 million people voted in a presidential election. https://www.cfr.org/article/2024-election-numbers https://www.cfr.org/article/2024-election-numbers
- messe 2y agoThe relative turnout is always going to be more interesting given that population growth means you'll almost always soon exceed your total turnout within a few election cycles: > In relative terms, voter turnout nationally in 2024 was 63.9 percent. That is below the 66.6 percent voter turnout recorded in 2020, which was the highest voter turnout rate in a U.S. presidential election since 1900. Nonetheless, turnout in 2024 was still high by modern standards. The 1960 election between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon (63.8 percent) is the only other election in the last 112 years to exceed 63 percent voter turnout. If you are wondering, the election of 1876 holds the record for the highest percentage voter turnout: 82.6 percent. That was one of America’s most controversial and consequential elections—and not in a good way. It was also an election in which more than half the adult-age population was ineligible to vote.
- croemer 2y agoDon't use absolute numbers here, that's lying with statistics. The correct metric would be relative turnout and that doesn't support your claim: > In relative terms, voter turnout nationally in 2024 was 63.9 percent. That is below the 66.6 percent voter turnout recorded in 2020, which was the highest voter turnout rate in a U.S. presidential election since 1900
- Qem 2y agoA lot of support. A fundraiser for his defense is already north of 220k. See https://www.givesendgo.com/legalfund-ceo-shooting-suspect https://www.givesendgo.com/legalfund-ceo-shooting-suspect