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But also a convenient excuse to sell more ramm and disk space 'for the textures'.
by plussed_reader 2y ago
But also a convenient excuse to sell more ramm and disk space 'for the textures'.
- shermantanktop 2y agoHard to know how to respond to that. This could be applied to virtually all technology changes that benefit users but also make money for someone else. I assume you use a refrigerator and not a hole in the ground with ice. Have you been manipulated into giving money to Big Appliance?
- mlekoszek 2y agoTo an absolute hardliner for appropriate technology, probably -- but simplicity isn't necessarily all-or-nothing, and (IMO) helping people pull off cool things with simpler tools isn't so bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appropriate_technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appropriate_technology
- shermantanktop 2y agoSure, but we're not talking about how to irrigate a field here, we're talking about being limited to 600x800 resolution when playing a game. Some people were teenagers when that was the best you could get, so I'm guessing they see it as a "good old days" baseline that they can be principled about while indulging their nostalgia.
- lukan 2y agoI remember that was the best I can get and I was thrilled for it at the time. But then I was even more thrilled when Far Cry came out. Then Crysis ... why would I go back? Now you surely can argue, that nowdays the creativity got lower in favour of just more textures, but I like to have both. Still, for a simple game limiting to 800x600 for performance and dev reasons - why not? But for me it means I see no use case for myself.
- mlekoszek 2y agoI can see that, but I think calling it just nostalgia-driven is judging a book by its cover. First off, I want to say you can totally have a design ethos that covers game engines as much as irrigation systems -- Lee Felsenstein explicitly cited Ivan Illich's notion of 'convivial technology' as an influence on his modems. And Illich mostly talked about bicycles. What I see in this project is a specific kind of appropriate technology -- 'toaster compatibility' -- mixed with conscious adoption of old methods and aesthetics to serve and signal that end. Which is cool, IMO. HTMX uses similar techniques in trying to 'bring back' hypermedia and reduce dependencies, although I think they're after a different kind of simplicity. And of course, their Hypermedia Systems book makes similar nods to 90s-software aesthetics: https://hypermedia.systems/ https://hypermedia.systems/
- 6510 2y agoIt is enough to make gameplay the main challenge? https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9632128256/hDF15F98F/cat https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9632128256/hDF15F98F/cat
- Tostino 2y agoYou probably missed it in another subthread, but that limit was a joke on their website, not an actual limit.
- K0balt 2y agoThere is no such resolution limit. That was a joke.
- dclowd9901 2y agoI would argue refrigerators provide a lot more utility for most people than high poly counts.
- Yossarrian22 2y agoI think I’ve gained more utility from being able to look at 3 spreadsheets at once than I’ve gained from my refrigerator(not if we’re counting the refrigeration of the supply chain for food and medicine then that wins out by a landslide)
- whiskiss 2y agoMost people don't need 3 monitors. Pretty much everyone needs or has a fridge except for the least fortunate in society. He said most people, so u just fall in the much, much smaller minority with a bit of a questionable claim. Like, If u had to give up one, it'd be your fridge over monitors? Utility of the monitors runs out when u have to spend time getting fresh ingredients every other day.
- BSDobelix 2y agoFake Optimization in Modern Graphics (And How We Hope To Save It): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4
- whiskiss 2y agoDude is pitching and wanting funding for THEIR solution from the vids I saw, not a general industry change or free fix. Also their AI upscaling makes it look like the guy is wearing foundation and makes it hard to take seriously lol.
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- BSDobelix 2y ago>Dude is pitching and wanting funding for THEIR solution from the vids I saw, not a general industry change or free fix. Terrible
- technothrasher 2y agoSomebody in rural Africa once told me, "one advantage you have living in a colder area is that you don't have to run your fridge for half the year!" I honestly didn't have any good answer for him as to why I do anyway.
- MisterTea 2y agoOff topic but I always wanted a fridge that uses cold outside air to cool in the winter.
- whiskiss 2y agoThat sounds either really difficult to make and maintain or an absolutely fridge industry destroying innovation. Given weather and stuff I fear the first. Sick idea tho. I know nothing of fridge engineering besides basics so could be way off.
- araes 2y agoThat's actually kind of a "cool" idea. Likely reduce bills significantly with some kind of external HVAC connection, like your dryer, that pulls in cold air from a shaded overhang on the side away from solar input (or maybe underground). This paper [1] has some discussion of testing differences between 16 C, 25 C, and 31 C ambient exhaust conditions. It's actually a fairly significant difference under testing. ~(0.35, 0.70, 1.05) kWh / 24h for (16 degC, 25 degC, 31 degC). Refrigerators in experiments were kept at ~ 5 degC (approx 600 tests). [1] https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/82169783/j.ijrefrig.2005.11.00820220314-3426-1arug85-libre.pdf?1647314116=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DPerformance_of_a_domestic_refrigerator_u.pdf&Expires=1736371073&Signature=TgdEYnphLML~NzJZOWxYkqjtS89IWxfFrw0Q19D-7d62LjDP5K-FLXRQLc6cy~JzmyJPqT1AOvnBg~U2spsrrk5RYNa8KjAR-HxxdnUsTyKua2JlA3J8JR7gYA2Os5gKooyTsl0OsQRpcszehaVVet6t2ev9IWeNSv9Gmc2M3XSrWdq6QVP9XPXKu2cAqpMJ1hEw5rqayirhSb2sIO6sx~sh5qYycAB4CjcElwLL45lqPHEJnhxf~HmW5wAIr4gZxw-QfBeCjqXm8Y5BCzfwB4eEUHJ~uScGQEcvqx4umtF3j1d2bOR-n6ruCYB-7M-4ykq9vAA9wuy9f3ZNqlF4dQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/82169783/j.ijrefrig.20...
- NullPrefix 2y agoFridge in winter isn't wasteful. All the energy consumed goes towards heating
- Suppafly 2y ago>But also a convenient excuse to sell more ramm and disk space 'for the textures'. Except different companies sell different things. This is like the conspiracy that women's pants don't have pockets to sell more purses.
- lukan 2y ago"This is like the conspiracy that women's pants don't have pockets to sell more purses." Oh my god, this explains everything! (btw. I recently learned, that the 9/11 inside job conspiracy evolved. Nowdays the standard theory is, that there were not even planes in the first place, just bombs and smoke)
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- Ericson2314 2y agoTextures are bad, but screen resolution is good.
- plussed_reader 2y agoYa gonna just leave empty pixels on display?
- bravetraveler 2y agoShaded, of course
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- Delk 2y agoA higher rendering resolution doesn't require higher resolution textures, and a higher source resolution for textures is what would require more storage and more RAM. (I think a higher rendering resolution does require more video RAM though.) Of course after some point a higher rendering resolution starts giving diminishing returns if the resolution for the source material isn't also increased.